[MC-124170] Performance issue with particles causing lag

Update:

Also affects my new pc:

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4570 CPU @ 3.20 Ghz

RAM: 8 GB

GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 ti OC Edition

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Some fixed in 18w09a, but not all e.g dragon breath and rain particles.
I created a world and I went to the end to defeat enderdragon in survivalmode.
After than the dragon shot a fireball the game is stopped work well, because the area_effect_cloud partice is created many lag spikes.
After I summoned blazes and the fps decreased.
I tried it with every particles
Particle performances in 17w50a-18w11a:
In small render distance( 2 chunk), max. fps set 60, played 100 particles with a command(always active repeater command_block)
-angry_villager(100 particle) 33-35 fps
-barrier(100 particle) 33-35 fps
-bubble(100 paricles) 60 fps
-cloud(100 particles) 1-5 fps
-crit(100 particles) 49-52 fps
-damage_indicator(100 particles) 12-26 fps
-dragon_breath(100 particles) 55 fps
-effect(100 particles) 29 fps
enchant(100 particles) 60 fps
and more... Some not laggy and some very laggy
And very laggy some natural generated particles:
dragon_breath,cloud,blockcrack and smoke(blaze and fire)
So the performance with particles was way better in 1.12.2 than 1.13.2 and 1.14 snapshots.

Code analysis

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Related issues

is duplicated by

MC-123776 Blockcrack particles are very laggy

MC-126294 Brutal FPS drop near bubble columns over ocean ravines

MC-133867 1.13 TNT performs worse than 1.12.2 TNT

MC-134425 Performance issue with Particles

MC-134569 Falling particles cause lag

MC-135529 Small amounts of TNT causing massive frame drops.

MC-135991 TNT causes your FPS to drop low since 17w47b

MC-136688 Fireworks Cause drops to 5 or less FPS

MC-136691 The particles such as Rain splashes create so much lag in 1.13

MC-136805 Particles kill fps

MC-137216 Lag with fireworks

MC-137864 Fireworks with "trail" cause lag spikes

MC-139117 TNT Particles Lag The Game

MC-139279 Lag is created when a firework explodes....

MC-139551 Scaffoldings is bugging the game when several are destroyed at the same time.

MC-139840 Particles create an unusually large amount of lag unlike in older versions

MC-141838 Extreme framerate drop while being around a spawner

MC-143274 Campfire particles cause extreme lag when covered

MC-144021 Too many Soul sand bubble column particles

MC-144803 Extreme Tick Lag

MC-145504 Bubbles and bad performance

MC-147915 TNT explosion causes big fps drop

MC-152056 Multiple campfires cause exponential framelag

MC-154676 A lot of frame loss for normal particles

MC-155387 Colored dust/block particles are extremely laggy in 1.14

relates to

MC-123263 Light Update or Block Update FPS issue

MC-147732 Endless firework and massive lag

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migrated 2018-01-11T17:53:44Z

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migrated 2018-01-11T22:00:34Z

Possible clone of MC-122324. Probably not, that is still fixed.

migrated 2018-01-14T10:28:36Z

Agreed, VERY laggy compared to 1.12.

Just a large firework which is red and orange with trails, and fades to black/dark gray brings me from 600 fps to like 30

i5 6500
GTX 1060 3gb
-Xmx4G

violine1101 2018-01-14T13:54:21Z

Confirmed. Performance with particles was way better in 1.12.2.

violine1101 2018-01-18T17:10:39Z

Please use the preview feature (tiny blue card) to preview your changes instead of constantly editing this report, hence spamming the mail account of everyone who watches this ticket.

violine1101 2018-03-01T16:32:34Z

Is this still an issue in 18w09a? The changelog mentions

Optimized particle rendering slightly

migrated 2018-03-15T18:47:37Z

Some fixed in 18w09a, but not all. I cant't kill the dragon because the game is freezing. The dragon breathe is the most laggiest thing in 1.13 snapshots. And some other laggy particles: explosion, smoke, rain and blockcrack particles.

migrated 2018-05-29T16:46:59Z

I think in 18w22a this bug fixed!

wobst.michael 2018-05-29T17:58:53Z

Please re-check to make sure it's really fixed.

migrated 2018-06-24T12:06:59Z

@unknown can you confirm if this is fixed in newer snapshots/pre-releases ?

migrated 2018-06-24T12:19:57Z

I think this bug fixed in the newest snapshots and prereleases.

migrated 2018-06-26T14:28:08Z

It is again in 1.13-pre4.

migrated 2018-07-22T16:19:14Z

Confirmed in 1.13

migrated 2018-08-25T18:46:12Z

XP orb is considered a particle? because I tested my lag with xp orbs and really lags... I can throw 2x more Bottle o' Enchanting in 1.12.2 than in 1.13 before lag starts

migrated 2018-08-25T18:50:02Z

XP Orbs are considered as entities. They are another thing to render and calculate.

[MOD] Greymagic27 2018-09-03T19:17:28Z

Firework Particles have this effect

migrated 2018-09-08T18:30:13Z

Confirmed in 1.13.1

Asteraoth 2018-09-08T18:37:41Z

@unknown, Minecraft 1.13.1 is already an affected version.

migrated 2018-10-10T02:51:31Z

I'd like to just comment, and say that it even affects complete overkill hardware in 1.13.1. I've attached an image above, showing the issue with an i7-7700k and a GTX 1080 Ti displayed in the F3 screen. Sorry if this comment is unneeded. I just figured someone may have come to the false conclusion that since the original reporter has low-end hardware, that may have been a factor.

migrated 2018-10-20T17:16:50Z

Just want to mention that this issue persists in 1.13.2-pre2. Command used was /particle minecraft:firework ~ ~10 ~ 1 1 1 1 10000

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violine1101 2018-10-20T17:45:26Z

I might want to add that I've got this problem as well without needing to use /particle. If it rains, the game lags very much until I disable particles. (Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti)

migrated 2018-10-20T18:54:17Z

Can confirm that some are very laggy compared to others without the particle command. Having enough blaze in one area really hurts due to the smoke even though I have a gtx 1060.

migrated 2018-10-24T08:20:47Z

Sorry if this is spam at this point, but I'd like to comment again and show that it still exists in the full 1.13.2 release, this time even without the aforementioned particle command:

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This is at a generic enderman farm that worked fine prior to 1.13+ versions.

migrated 2018-10-25T12:43:09Z

I'm not certain exactly what is triggering it but when entering a cave if my particles are set any higher than minimal my game get a massive lag spike. any further in or out of the cave and it ceases. there are no mob farms or anything more advanced than 3 furnaces nearby. I'm hoping it's relevant in some way.

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migrated 2018-11-01T07:09:09Z

Am having insane lag from Blaze spawners in for a blaze farm in 1.13.2. Particles have to be turned down to minimal or I have to walk two chunks away.

migrated 2018-11-03T21:58:02Z

I have a insane lag with soul sand burbles underwater, and i have a decent pc, i7, 8gb and a GTX 760, my fps drops from 200-300 to only 2-3 fps! I'm using 1.13.2

migrated 2018-11-07T15:15:06Z

Is there a chance that this gets fixed soon? Already tried to play my SP & MP maps with 1.13 but it is not reliable. The issue is quite old and the particle performance is much better in 1.12.2.

migrated 2018-11-10T11:14:01Z

In 1.13.2 the fps drops to 3- on my computer when lots of mobs are falling down and dying (killing them by hand won't cause the fps drop), which is unimaginable in 1.12.2. Turning particles to minimal seems to be the only solution now.

migrated 2018-11-13T18:57:06Z

Well, it seems that sp614x (the OptiFine creator) discovered what was causing the issue. He explained what it was in his Discord server, so I simply took a screenshot of it. I'm not certain if I can link an invite to the Discord here. Although, here's what he said: https://i.imgur.com/9a9l1yo.png

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Asteraoth 2018-11-13T19:04:01Z

Thanks, @unknown.

migrated 2018-11-14T02:22:25Z

I was having trouble with fireworks on a server. The only way to stop it was to turn off firework particles with optifine.

Makzevu 2018-12-08T16:04:38Z

Optifine E5 pre5, released three days ago, has an applied fixed for particle lag. Is there a way to implement that into the current snapshots?

migrated 2018-12-08T17:31:17Z

Some particles are inherently laggy based on durtion, physics, etc..

Jack McKalling 2019-01-28T21:55:25Z

I was able to get some weird behaviour with piston-pushed blocks above campfires, which influenced performance related to particles in MC-143274.

It was marked as duplicate of this issue but others apparently couldn't reproduce it there.

Jack McKalling 2019-01-30T22:12:33Z

Confirmed for 19w05a

Jack McKalling 2019-02-06T17:37:59Z

Confirmed for 19w06a

Jack McKalling 2019-02-13T17:17:57Z

Confirmed for 19w07a

Jack McKalling 2019-02-28T09:48:58Z

Confirmed for 19w09a

Jack McKalling 2019-03-13T17:25:21Z

Confirmed for 19w11a

Jack McKalling 2019-03-14T16:23:54Z

Confirmed for 19w11b

Jack McKalling 2019-03-20T22:23:33Z

Confirmed for 19w12a

Jack McKalling 2019-03-21T17:01:46Z

Confirmed for 19w12b

Jack McKalling 2019-03-27T19:59:37Z

Confirmed for 19w13a

Jack McKalling 2019-03-29T14:18:40Z

Confirmed for 19w13b

Jack McKalling 2019-04-03T16:01:38Z

Confirmed for 19w14a

Jack McKalling 2019-04-08T09:49:36Z

Confirmed for 19w14b

Jack McKalling 2019-04-10T15:35:23Z

Confirmed for 1.14 pre-1

Jack McKalling 2019-04-15T09:20:32Z

Confirmed for 1.14 pre-2

Jack McKalling 2019-04-16T14:51:57Z

Confirmed for 1.14 pre-3

Jack McKalling 2019-04-17T16:42:05Z

Confirmed for 1.14 pre-4

Jack McKalling 2019-04-18T13:13:32Z

Confirmed for 1.14 pre-5

Jack McKalling 2019-04-23T19:58:09Z

Confirmed for 1.14

LogicalGeekBoy 2019-04-26T17:32:17Z

As others have said the particle lag is incredible. I'm testing out a "World Eater" (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qbeydk87OdmJV3nkVHzN0_XGxnCc5Sr_ from this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7BOA5Hl6yE) in 1.14 to see how it handles it. The good news is that it works but if I'm within render range of the TNT explosion particles then my frames drop to 1 FPS. 1.12 never had these issues, please spend some time on a 1.14.x release focused just on performance and please include a fix for this issue. Thanks <3

Jack McKalling 2019-05-07T16:24:55Z

Confirmed for 1.14.1 pre-1

migrated 2019-05-07T22:33:47Z

Very much confirmed in 1.14.1. The game is currently unplayable. How has this issue not been fixed at all? A single tree on fire will drop me 100+FPS even down to 23FPS sometimes when walking around the tree on fire. Lighting the ground on fire causes stutter every time, a single piece of TNT causes a lag spike, and the same for any entities that have particles. It is terrible. I am running on a GTX 1070 with 5960X. Many players have this issue.

This doesn't happen on windows I am running Ubuntu 19.04 with the latest nvidia drivers. The same happens on my identicle system, and my other ryzen 3 1200 GTX 760 system. Anyone without a $1000+ cannot even play the game.

This has all started since the 1.14 release for me. 1.13 was much better, and 1.12 was the best performance. Optifine seems like a standard now. Looking like hytale really will be the replacement everyone can play.

Jack McKalling 2019-05-09T15:31:11Z

Confirmed for 1.14.1 pre-2

Jack McKalling 2019-05-13T13:34:41Z

Confirmed for 1.14.1

ZeNico13 2019-05-13T17:09:41Z

Can also confirm in 1.14.1 Release

LogicalGeekBoy 2019-05-16T20:22:37Z

Confirmed in 1.13.2 and 1.14.2-pre1. If you run Optifine (1.13.2) with explosion animations turned off then this World Eater runs at normal FPS. It would be really good to fix the particle lag in general without the need for a client-side mod. Maybe at least an option to turn off particles all together rather than just the Minimal option that we currently have.

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ZeNico13 2019-05-17T19:18:02Z

Still in 1.14.2 Pre-Release 2

migrated 2019-05-24T04:03:32Z

The dust and smoke particles has also become significantly more laggier than when it was in 1.12, in 1.12 you could have 1000+ on a repeating command block and only have minor issues, in 1.13 with that many particles fps drops to 1. Extreme case, but only mentioning it because that is what my testing did

In my testing it also appeared that in 1.12 when a large amount of particles were displayed, their lifetime appeared to be shortened. Not sure if this is from lag or if it was intended, but I could not see this happening in 1.13. This may be contributing to the issue, but the main reason has been found above.

Jack McKalling 2019-06-07T13:19:01Z

Confirmed fixed for 1.14.3-pre2. For at least my example instance of the issue (campfire particles)

migrated 2019-06-14T21:07:13Z

how did you get the lagometer? did you use a mod like optifine? try removing the lagometer.

Makzevu 2019-06-14T21:13:47Z

Pressing Alt + F3 enables the FPS and TPS chart in standard (vanilla) Minecraft. Optifine is not required to see that.

Also this bug is fixed.

migrated 2019-07-27T15:49:34Z

Not sure if this is the same issue described here, but Blazes cause an extreme amount of lag in 1.14.4 when suffocating inside a wall (e.g. by a crusher trap) - 24 blazes cause very little lag by themselves, but once I start crushing them my framerate drops to 1-2fps. Other sources of damage (e.g. water) cause no issues.

NickNackGus 2019-07-30T01:26:37Z

That sounds like it should be a new bug report, assuming other particles aren't causing issues.

migrated 2019-07-30T03:23:52Z

Turns out it wasn't from them suffocating, but from being next to an extended East-facing piston (yes, it's THAT specific), and it happens with campfires too (and possibly any other rising particles) - see MC-158037.