[MC-157443] Sponge doesn't initially absorb and retain water anymore.

Before the 1.14.4 update, sponge would clear water in a 5x5x5 area and if it wasn't place in water (running or source) it would remain dry. But now you have to place the sponge in the water to clear water, then it turns into wet sponge and doesnt retain any of the water so it refills all of the water right away, making sponge completely useless. I have some pictures of how i was clearing water before the update and then how it has to be done now.

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the lines of sponge towards the back of the photo are all dry, they were placed before the update. The sponges towards the foreground of the picture are half and half and only are like that because I had used an auto-clicker to place it as i was flying. It affects every version of minecraft all the way back to 1.8 (which was as far as i tested). Can this be reverted please?

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robbage 2019-07-23T08:58:33Z

From that photo it looks like the sponges are working as intended according to the wiki. Those two sponges on the dirt wall aren't going to do anything. There's a block separating them from the water.

Michael Samples 2019-07-23T14:52:21Z

robbage, the problem is that its almost impossible to clear water with the sponge anymore because sponge doesn't hold water back anymore, the water instantly refills itself. That's the bug, this was not a thing before 1.14.4, but now it has changed and it was not mentioned in changelog at all, which leads me to believe this was a mistake.

robbage 2019-07-23T21:55:14Z

Possibly due to a change in water dynamics with the aquatic update rather than a bug with sponges.

Michael Samples 2019-07-23T22:47:02Z

If im not mistaken, the water update was 1.13. the sponges worked fine in 1.14.3, i used them in 1.14.3, then they release 1.14.4 and all versions of minecraft have this wierd thing happening with sponges.

Paul Jankowski 2019-07-23T23:49:50Z

Could it be a mechanics of infinite water sources? When I was clearing monuments I had to use more sponges sometimes due to reappearing water sources.

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tryashtar 2019-07-23T23:56:26Z

The release of 1.14.4 did not affect earlier versions. Vanilla sponges got new mechanics when they were made obtainable in 1.8, and have not really changed since then.

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T00:21:12Z

No, in 1.14.3, when you placed a sponge adjacent to water (not in it) it wouldn't turn wet and it would hold the water back until the water block was updated then it would start to flow again. But now that mechanic is broken and the sponge doesn't hold back water at all, so all of the source block replace themselves no matter what.

And yeah they haven't changed much at all, except for the fact that wet sponges don't retain water anymore, and now all of a sudden it has changed.
Are any of you actually testing with the sponges at all before you comment here?

I'm pretty sure something changed between 1.14.3 and 1.14.4 that shouldn't have.

tryashtar 2019-07-24T00:36:52Z

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Same behavior since 1.8. Sponge breaks water, water flows back in.

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T01:37:43Z

Then why was i able to clear water like this?

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and then now all of a sudden after 1.14.4 i have to clear it like this?

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The problem isnt about when you place the sponge in the water, thats not it at all. The problem is that dry sponges used to be able to break water too and not turn into wet sponge meaning that the water would be held back and not regenerate source blocks.

tryashtar 2019-07-24T01:44:24Z

Presumably because of mods

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T01:58:34Z

No mods at all, could've mentioned it was on a spigot server, but this same issue has appeared to me on single player vanilla. Now, there used to be a way to place sponges so that they remained dry and broke water blocks at the same time right? Am i just going crazy? What I'm trying to say is that something has changed, it wasn't put in change log, so the only reasoning i have left is that it is a bug and was not meant to be changed. There has always been a mechanic that sponges would hold back water blocks that they broke, one way or another.
Back to the spigot server thing, it has a capability to run multiple versions at the same time (i forget what it's called as it's not my server) one of the servers still runs on 1.14.3, the sponges act differently there, the one that runs 1.14.4 has the same mechanics, BUT the mechanics used to not be that way before they changed it to 1.14.4. Before 1.14.4 all the mechanics were fine, but since mojang released 1.14.4 all the mechanics across all versions have changed COMPLETELY! Why is this so hard to believe. I think what it boils down too is that the versions have a shared library among them, meaning that if the mechanics of one block changes in a later update, the earlier versions change too, which is why its so odd to me that the way sponges worked in 1.8 have changed as well because if i recall correctly, wet sponges would still break water blocks and hold the water back as WET sponges. meaning that smelting the sponges was useless. Since the aquatic update, they changed it so that only dry sponges would retain (keep back) water from flowing and recreating the source blocks the sponges would break, now in 1.14.4 it seems that sponges are completely useless because water is neither retained or broken by wet sponges, and dry sponges don't retain the water either meaning if you place a sponge (it turns wet) then place a dry sponge (which should retain the water from flowing back in) the water sources just regenerate making the action of obtaining and placing sponges completely pointless now that whatever you do will just get redone by the water source mechanics.

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T02:36:24Z

Why has this been resolved as invalid

my issue has not been taken care of at all, im not an imbecile yet im treated like one, i thought this place was for people to report issues with minecraft, not to get attacked and disregarded, I still have a valid point, if not please help me understand why this issue is now invalid!

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T02:38:38Z

There werent any mods on any of the minecraft versions i was playing at all, plugins can't affect how vanilla mechanics work, only use vanilla mechanics to do different things. Also the problem is present on more than just a server, its present in singleplayer as well, VANILLA singleplayer

tryashtar 2019-07-24T02:47:13Z

You are simply mistaken.

A spigot server is indeed modded, Minecraft versions do not share mechanics in a common library, and this behavior did not change between 1.14.3 and 1.14.4.

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T02:51:46Z

Then why has this stopped working, I have observed this in more than just a server. I played in singleplayer and it wasn't like this, and now all of a sudden it doesn't work. Oh i know why, because its a bug. i wish I had a video of me doing this before the update and then a video of now just so that i can show that this is indeed a bug and is not normal, now that you have resolved this on your own accord i am powerless to do anything about this issue that is still relevant because you failed to ask whether or not i had observed the same issue in single player.

Oh and also no one else will be able to give their input on the matter, maybe perhaps someone from mojang, granted i know not all tickets can be resolved and looked at by mojang, but seriously, something isn't right with sponges anymore, the point of sponges was to clear water, please tell me how am i supposed to clear water with sponges if the water always backfills?!

tryashtar 2019-07-24T02:53:25Z

If you can attach such a video (demonstrating the old behavior in vanilla 1.14.3), I will gladly reopen

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T03:04:52Z

Hang on let me look and see if there are any plugins that affected sponges, idk what is going on

Michael Samples 2019-07-24T04:07:13Z

welp i concede, im just crazy at this point