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MC-91206

1.9 Boats no longer "float" with multiple water levels

With the new 1.9 boats, they no longer float to the surface when they run into a taller block of water. As such players can no longer create and use Water Elevators that use boats AND boats can no longer traverse up small river inclines used in man-made rivers.

I did some experimenting and found that these new 1.9 boats will only stay above water if its within a small layer at the very top of the water blocks, when pushed under this invisible "layer" that determines if it floats, the boat then sinks and promptly boots you out of the boat. While this does feel more realistic the problem is that Minecraft water is nowhere near the same as real water. Take the screenshots below as an example: Shown was a boating river race course I was designing that had the beginning stages forcing the player to boat upriver with non-steep water inclines of 1 block so they could go upriver to the top of this island then do a downriver segment later on.

In the screenshots I hopped into a boat to test, boated towards the first incline section of my course and instead of floating to the top of the river (a 1-block high "waterfall") it drove right through the rising river section then began to sink/boot me out.

I understand somewhat making realistic boats, but the inability to float up water blocks in these new boats kinda ruins most of their new upgrades' potential. Water/boat elevators and log flume rides aside the inability to rise up water blocks with this bug (if it is one) makes players very restricted on building things like boat racing tracks, which now cannot go upriver anymore.

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nicolas rodriguez

and the boat???

The boat sinks down to the bottom of the body of water it is in, any further attempts to hop in result in being immediately booted out of the boat. Someone's already reported the booted out/teleporting part, I'm reporting the buggy boat physics with water layers that makes them unusable for things they have and will be used for.

Still broken in 15w44a

Michael Turner

Duplicate of MC-89944.

Incorrect links, probably only a duplicate

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for your information MC-89944 is tagged as resolved as works as intended and i dont see any under review tag and i would like it reopened as well as this one
@grum https://i.gyazo.com/b549d68fd13af2d399e64146ede5cc9a.png

@unknown As you can see, I asked for reopening on Mojira Reddit 2 months ago, Mr. Broes resolved it as "works as intended" 4 months ago (see your screenshot).

@unknown review tags are hidden from public, there's no for the public to see those.

This was the most stupidest change. How can you talk about realistic physics when we're in a game made of blocks where I can teleport to kill a dragon? And you're changing the behavior of boats saying that if boats fill with water, they sink, as an act of making it more realistic? This is the perfect reason why I should downgrade my server to 1.8. Thanks a bunch Microsoft... you ruined Windows 10 and now you're ruining Minecraft. :/

@unknown Click this link here for a post on Mojira Reddit about it if you want to add your perspective (although it doesn't really add much to it, I don't know anybody so far who likes this change, and blaming MS for it won't help either, they don't see it).
That being said, MC-89944 ("New boats sink and are impossible to enter underwater") is tagged for review, maybe it is just currently not possible to fix it due to the state of the code.
Sometimes stuff can't be fixed, but that doesn't mean it will be forever the case.
Just some patience, we all hope it might be doable to have non-sinkable boats or that they can at least "climb" a few water layers up at some point }=)

Joseph Sarin

Erik Broes

Confirmed

Minecraft 15w43b, Minecraft 15w44a, Minecraft 15w45a, Minecraft 16w06a, Minecraft 1.9 Pre-Release 2

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