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Steve Blanding

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MC-7866 Hoppers fed from the side behave differently from hoppers fed from above. Duplicate

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@Kumasasa: I can confirm Rocket Turtle's observations. Horizontal hopper behavior now appears to work correctly. Vertical behavior still seems to be a little less correct.

This is a great improvement and I could live with this just it is now but it doesn't appear to be 100% correct just yet.

Confirmed. It appears as if the act of dispensing lava (or water) is behaving like a redstone update and causing the dispenser to activate again.

No. It's NOT fixed in 13w09c. And a sideways stacking system does NOT work perfectly. It works a little better than it used to but I have verified that it is still quite broken.

Unfortunately, yes, it seems to have been completely fixed now. Why was it changed from 13w07a? I thought that was a reasonable compromise. Now the build I was working on is going to need to be quite a bit larger. 😞

Chad: The snapshot is released. I had played with it before I posted. So I guess you must not have been directing your comments at me? Either way, this is probably getting out of hand. My bad there. I'm not really worked up about this although my excessive posting may make it seem that way. 😉 It's not that big of a deal. I'll stop now.

Chad: Telling people to stop complaining about a change is counter productive. I thought the whole point of making an open database like this was to acquire feedback from the users. I'm really happy that they have provided a place where I can offer my feedback and I completely respect their right to ignore my feedback when they think I'm wrong. But don't tell me not to provide it in the first place. As for your reasoning, it was quite possible to determine how full a dispenser was before this fix, so I have no idea what you were talking about there.

Jeb: I realized that there were performance implications but I still quite liked the behavior. Still, I can understand why you would feel the need to fix it for performance reasons.

Once again, you have fixed a "bug" that didn't need fixing. Fixing this breaks SO many useful builds. Anything that wanted to auto-empty a dispenser or dropper now requires much more complex redstone. I would very much like to see this "fix" reversed.

I'm not entirely convinced this is a duplicate of MC-6162, although it's possible that the root cause may be the same. If you say it is, I won't argue too much, but I would be sad if that were somehow fixed and this were not. 🙂

If you want more details and would like to see this thing in action, here is a video that breaks it down: http://youtu.be/h80qAGuJxkw