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Endermite, phantom, silverfish and baby turtle sinking and suffocating in soul sand

The bug

Endermites, phantom, silverfish and baby turtle walking over or spawned on soul sand suffocate.

Earlier manifestations of this bug are also reported to have affected end frame blocks, but I am no longer able to reproduce that symptom.

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kumasasa

Confirmed.

Happ MacDonald

Not sure why the "endermite drowns on soulsand" issue is duplicate to this, but it is true. Also, silverfish suffer the same fate.

Itouch2

Confirmed in 14w17a for endermites and silverfishes that suffocate in soulsand

shufboyardee

they suffocate in soulsand in 18a as well. minecart issue was fixed separately as of 17a.

Happ MacDonald

Can we get somebody to update the title then, and then potentially the description as well?

I feel it was a mistake for the minecart bug and the soulsand bug to ever have been merged or marked as duplicate to one another, and bug reports lacking clarity will only be ignored for a longer time. 😞

Can this be fixed just by altering the point in the model which acts as a breathing/seeing point, so that it's not quite so close to the ground?

kumasasa

Done.

Hayden Muhl

They also suffocate on End portal blocks. Separate bug?

kumasasa

Not necessary, updated the summary.

Itouch2

Confirmed for 14w18b.

Itouch2

Confirmed for 14w21b. (MC-56089)

Itouch2

Confirmed for 14w28b

Itouch2

Confirmed for 14w34c

Sonicwave

Confirmed for 1.8-pre2.

Ampflower

Confirmed for 15w33a

user-03bb4

Confirmed for 15w35e

Anomonous Anomonous

This happens because of the hitboxes of endermite and silverfish and the fact that these blocks are actually slightly shorter than a full block. This is probably why it happens.

Spake Miner

Confirmed for 15w43a

Happ MacDonald

Confirmed for 16w05a.

Are you still active +iftah gold, or may I be named reporter to keep this issue up to date?

Proposed solution: simply shorten the hitbox of these blocks so that points are not "within the hitbox" until they are lower than the foot position of mobs walking on the blocks.

[Mod] redstonehelper

Changed reporter.

Happ MacDonald

Note: it appears as though in Minecraft 1.8.9 the creatures are harmed both on soul sand and on end portal frames, but that by Snapshot 16w05b only the Soul Sand harms them. End Frames are now safe.

Happ MacDonald

Reasons to fix THIS ancient bug:

Primarily just because it reveals some very strange design issues with the NPC hitbox system that are liable to find other ways of making your life miserable if you only let them. ;P

Paint

Just found this bug in 16w39b.

Sonicwave

Confirmed for 1.11.2.

Sonicwave

Confirmed for 1.12-pre5.

Andrej Mladenović

This was an intended feature.

Sonicwave

Source?
Confirmed for 1.12

qwerty23495

Can confirm in 1.13-pre3.

Kraif

Confirmed for 1.13.1 (only worked with the Soul Sand).

Ahmet Çavuş

I believe this is intended feature.

CubeTheThird

Does this still occur in 1.14+? Hitboxes and behaviour with soulsand have changed since then.

Happ MacDonald

OK, I can confirm this is fixed as of 1.14.3PR2. 🙂

iftah gold

Happ MacDonald

(Unassigned)

Confirmed

Hitboxes

Minecraft 14w11a, Minecraft 14w11b, Minecraft 14w17a, Minecraft 14w18a, Minecraft 14w18b, ..., Minecraft 18w19b, Minecraft 18w21b, Minecraft 18w22a, Minecraft 1.13-pre3, Minecraft 1.13.1

Minecraft 1.14.3 Pre-Release 2

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