[MC-65274] 14w31a not loading!

[20:56:32] [Client thread/INFO]: Setting user: colwynplaysmc
[20:56:32] [Client thread/INFO]: (Session ID is token:b40b3b8c4a3c42a0a79cd81404683286:3dc86cc60a374cfab0fe44bb4552e2b8)
[20:56:43] [Client thread/WARN]: Skipping bad option: maxFps:Unlimited
[20:56:43] [Client thread/INFO]: LWJGL Version: 2.9.1
[20:56:43] [Client thread/INFO]: Reloading ResourceManager: Default

Starting up SoundSystem...
[20:56:53] [Client thread/WARN]: File minecraft:sounds/mob/ghast/fireball.ogg does not exist, cannot add it to event minecraft:item.fireCharge.use
Initializing LWJGL OpenAL
(The LWJGL binding of OpenAL. For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.org)
OpenAL initialized.

[20:56:54] [Sound Library Loader/INFO]: Sound engine started
[20:57:01] [Client thread/INFO]: Created: 512x512 textures-atlas
[20:57:04] [Client thread/WARN]: Failed to load shader: minecraft:shaders/post/entity_outline.json
ot: Invalid shaders/program/sobel.vsh: Couldn't compile vertex program: ERROR: 0:1: '' : Version number not supported by GL2
ERROR: 1 compilation errors. No code generated.
at csb.a(SourceFile:67) ~[14w31a.jar:?]
at cry.<init>(SourceFile:132) ~[14w31a.jar:?]
at csa.<init>(SourceFile:26) ~[14w31a.jar:?]
at crz.a(SourceFile:268) ~[14w31a.jar:?]
at crz.a(SourceFile:138) ~[14w31a.jar:?]
at crz.a(SourceFile:86) ~[14w31a.jar:?]
at crz.<init>(SourceFile:52) ~[14w31a.jar:?]
at cjk.c(SourceFile:225) [14w31a.jar:?]
at brw.aj(SourceFile:478) [14w31a.jar:?]
at brw.a(SourceFile:293) [14w31a.jar:?]
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:120) [14w31a.jar:?]

Linked issues

is duplicated by 2

MC-72904 Failed to load shaders. Resolved

MC-77866 Mojang branded screen Resolved

relates to 1

MC-123616 Probelem with shader Resolved

Attachments

crash-2014-08-04_14.29.47-client.txt

Minecraft Load Bugs.txt

Comments 14

kumasasa 2014-08-04T06:20:34Z

[20:57:04] [Client thread/WARN]: Failed to load shader: minecraft:shaders/post/entity_outline.json
ot: Invalid shaders/program/sobel.vsh: Couldn't compile vertex program: ERROR: 0:1: '' : Version number not supported by GL2
ERROR: 1 compilation errors. No code generated.

This is looking like a graphics driver issue.

Start 1.7.10 and please force a crash by pressing F3 + C for 10 seconds while in-game and attach the crash report ([minecraft/crash-reports/crash-<DATE>-client.txt|http://hopper.minecraft.net/help/finding-minecraft-data-folder]) here.

kumasasa 2014-08-04T18:41:47Z

OpenGL: RADEON X300/X550 Series x86/SSE2 GL version 2.0.5695 WinXP Release, ATI Technologies Inc.

Download and install the latest graphics card driver for your system: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy1&os=Windows%20XP%20-%20Professional/Home&RenderOnServer=true
This might or might not help, since your graphics card and OS are quite old (Read: Ancient).

This is a technical support issue; this site is for bug reports only. For technical support please use the Mojang Support Center.

Ken Chapman 2015-01-07T12:15:17Z

Forgive me but the reply you offered your customer was a bit rude. If Minecraft IS NOT for, what you have decided to be, ancient machines, then clearly say so and give her money back. Otherwise, please explain to me why Minecraft downloads its own javaw.exe in version 8, when I have javaw.exe and javavm load on my ancient computer in version 7.

Can you fix the bug? Do you have an alternate version that doesn't promise to be everything to everyone? Or do you have a workaround? BTW. The following are MINECRAFT ERROR MESSAGES, such as they are. If you choose to write 1970's style nonsense error messages customers will not understand them. Put a bit more effort in being specific. It will help all of us.

Failed to load shader: minecraft:shaders/post/entity_outline.json
ox: Invalid shaders/program/sobel.vsh: Couldn't compile vertex program: ERROR: 0:1: '' : Version number not supported by GL2
ERROR: 1 compilation errors. No code generated.

kumasasa 2015-01-07T18:53:16Z

I'm sorry if that sounded rude, wasn't intended.
But, neither the computer of the OP nor your computer does meet the minimum system requirements :

Minimum Requirements:
GPU (Discrete): Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT or AMD Radeon HD 2400 with OpenGL 3.1

A Radeon X300/X550 is way older (~2004) than the mimum requiredd Radeon 2400 and supports OpenGL 2.0 at max.
Even worse, if the graphics card driver would report it's capabilites correctly, you would get a decent human readable error message, but the drivers are simply broken.
Please contact the help chat of the Mojang Support Center.

Ken Chapman 2015-01-07T22:14:41Z

I think you are misunderstanding my bug report.

1. If Mojang does not have support for Windows XP computers please state that plainly. I wouldn't have bought two copies.
2. You are not looking at the entire message. Note that your new version 1.8 loads javaw.exe that is Version 8. Note, Version 8. Windows XP will not support Java Version 8. See issue Number 1.
3. You seem to focus on monitors, graphics, and graphics processors, but you got mine wrong. Mine is an ATI Technologies Mobility Radeon 9700 AGP (0x4E50). I cannot find it on your approved list or unapproved list.
4. What of the error thrown: "Failed to load shader" and it goes on to list: entity_outline.json entity_outline.json is not on my computer. The line before tells us: "Invalid . . . sober.vsh"
5. Finally, I've gone to version 1.7.10 which is working fine on a virtually identical computer.

I've spent enough time in your country getting accustomed to people telling me what they can't do. How about a positive reflection and tell me what you can do?

4 more comments

Dlawso the Really Lucky Rabbit 2015-01-08T01:14:43Z

Sorry for butting in to this conversation.

Ken, first off, Kumasasa isn't part of Mojang in any way. He's just a moderator on the bug tracker ^{(a.k.a nice bad cop)}, and he bascially helps people out. I try to help people out, too.

Now, to the facts.

If Mojang does not have support for Windows XP computers please state that plainly. I wouldn't have bought two copies.

That is correct. Windows XP is no longer supported as Microsoft has dropped support for that OS on April 8th, 2014.

You are not looking at the entire message. Note that your new version 1.8 loads javaw.exe that is Version 8. Note, Version 8. Windows XP will not support Java Version 8.

That is also correct. As Windows XP is no longer supported, Oracle has recommended to update to a new Windows OS.

You seem to focus on monitors, graphics, and graphics processors, but you got mine wrong. Mine is an ATI Technologies Mobility Radeon 9700 AGP (0x4E50). I cannot find it on your approved list or unapproved list.

Unfortunately, after some extensive research, that graphics card / processor was released in mid-2002, which is still below the minimum system requirements.

What of the error thrown: "Failed to load shader" and it goes on to list: entity_outline.json entity_outline.json is not on my computer. The line before tells us: "Invalid . . . sober.vsh"

That is a shader is Minecraft, and unfortunately, that error is caused by your graphics card.

Finally, I've gone to version 1.7.10 which is working fine on a virtually identical computer.

Finally, what are the specs of that computer?

Colwyn Bordeaux 2015-01-08T01:34:10Z

Sonic, I have to say that there is still support for the Windows XP. I play Minecraft on the Windows XP and it still works. So support for the Windows XP has not been dropped by Mojang.

Dlawso the Really Lucky Rabbit 2015-01-08T01:41:54Z

Colwyn, true, but if you want to stream to Twitch, then you have to use Windows Vista or later. Mojang has recommended that you update to a new operating system as Microsoft dropped support for XP last year.

Colwyn Bordeaux 2015-01-08T01:57:12Z

True.

Colwyn Bordeaux 2015-01-08T01:58:16Z

Every time someone comments on this bug. I get a email could be because I created this bug report.

KingSupernova 2015-01-08T03:51:38Z

It's because you are "watching" the report. If you'd like to stop the emails, you can click the "Stop watching this issue" button in the upper right-hand corner of the report.

Ken Chapman 2015-01-08T20:10:58Z

Microsoft stopped supporting Windows XP in 2004, if what they do is called support. If Oracle feels they cannot handle the various releases of Java they shouldn't have played politics to control the source.

Now then, if Minecraft cannot support Windows, Please, Please, Please put that on your website, especially the purchase window. Don't let me navigate to a window and download for all Windows products, ok?

Can you provide a copy of the properly compiled shader? If no can I get a refund for the three copies of Minecraft that I have since you don't want my business any more?

kumasasa 2015-01-08T20:31:13Z

Again: It's not Java or XP causing this issue, it's your graphics card / graphics card driver.
And again: Please contact the help chat of the Mojang Support Center.

Ken Chapman 2018-01-15T13:51:04Z

1. You are reading the wrong post. If you want to comment on my post read
from my post. The subject line on your email is the wrong post. Do you
understand wrong post?

2. Your software is throwing errors, but it is my graphics card driver,
but you don't know what graphics card driver I am using. Why is the file
your compiler needs missing from your installation package?

3. If your software does not run on Windows XP say that plainly. Do not
make your problem my problem.

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