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MC-91163

Certain subtitles show up when the player is too far away to hear the sound

Some subtitles show up even if the player is too far away to hear the sound. So far this seems to affect:

  • Block broken (Sheep eating grass)

  • Bottle smashes

  • Bat takes off

  • Dispenser/droppers (item dispensed, dispenser failed)

  • Door/trapdoor/fence gate creaks (opening/closing)

  • Firework launches

  • Bee buzzes

This is best reproduced on a Superflat world with the "Void" preset (with subtitles on of course).

To reproduce bottle:
Fly up to around y=40 and throw a bottle; the "Bottle Smashes" subtitle should appear even though the player is well out of the audible range. It will show up to y=67 if you throw straight down.

To reproduce bat:

  • Type "/setblock 0 10 0 stone" and spawn a bat under a stone block (manually using a spawn egg).

  • Fly up to around y=60 and type "/setblock 0 10 0 air"; "Bat takes off" should show up.

Related issues

MC-91354 Random Block Broken Subtitle MC-102523 Riding Boat Subtitles/Sounds Error | Minecart Rolls MC-103965 Hide "Minecart Rolls" in the subtitles area. MC-106284 Minecart Rolls Sound Subtitle, while flying around minecart subs came up MC-114412 Subtitle Bug with Minecarts giving players 'xray' MC-115011 Certain subtitles ignore distance/range MC-130635 Sounds can be heard (and subtitles are being displayed) from very far away MC-134255 subtitle MC-137159 Block breaking playing randomly MC-141257 The Narrator says that a "minecart rolls" when really you are flying an elytra MC-141787 "Bat Takes off" is shown when subtitles are on for no reason MC-148296 Subtitles Glitch MC-149707 Minecraft Subtitles Showing "Minecart Rolls" MC-154854 lots of errors w/ subtitles MC-170165 Subtitles show "minecart rolls" when there is no sound at all MC-173885 Bee subtitle "Bee buzzes" can play, even if the bee is far away and its sound is not audible MC-184686 "Minecart Rolls" Sound effect/subtitle plays at random times

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"Minecart rolls" subtitle - it's a freshly created world.

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Block broken might be sheep eating grass. Sounds seem more sensitive than our ears, though. It's picking up sounds from much farther away.

Edit: this sound won't be subtitled when a cart in fact IS rolling.

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confirmed

kumasasa

Maybe related to MC-37557

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Confirmed for 15w46a

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Actually it seems the event is actually happening. In many cases this has helped me find mineshafts.

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Confirmed for 16w06a. There is a mineshaft ~ 50 blocks away from me, horizontally. I am on level 88, and it is ~18.

Sonicwave

Confirmed for 1.9. As @unknown noticed the minecart's subtitle does not appear when a minecart is actually moving around; the subtitle only seems to show when a minecart is rendered (whether by placing/summoning, or if the player comes within render distance of a minecart).

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It seems that subtitles are playing no matter their Y position. Even if the sound is at bedrock, and you're at sea level.

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Adding to your post, noticed that sometimes even though I'm only attacking the block, haven't broken it yet, subtitles display "Block Broken" when it should display "Block Breaking".
Update: Seems to be only with wood sounds...

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I noticed this today as I was sailing across the ocean. I saw "minecart rolls" and decided to get out at a nearby island to try and investigate. Spent a long time tracking down nothing but I did discover the following weird behavior:
1) I only get the subtitle when crossing from X=1313 into X=1314. Very rarely it would happen while simply standing on 1314. I couldn't get it to happen at any other X coordinate. Going from 1314 to 1313 doesn't trigger it, going from 1315 to 1314 doesn't trigger it. Only from 1313 to 1314. (Addenda! Just tried something else, see note 7)
2) It only happens between Z=-82 and Z=-241 (not exactly though, it would at -82.3 but not at -82.1, and would at -241.3 but not -241.5)
3) It happens all the time while on a boat, simply crossing from 1313 to 1314 is enough to trigger it.
4) When on land, it only happens when increasing Y, eg: jumping from 1313,10,-90 to 1314,11,-90. Decreasing Y, staying the same, whatever, no subtitle: jump up a block from 1313 to 1314 (Addenda! See 6)
5) When on land, it doesn't appear until I actually touch the block at 1314. If I stand away from the block and jump up to 1314 it doesn't appear until I land. However, if I stand right next to it, pushing against the block at 1314, then it appears the instant I jump presumably because I am touching the block.
6) If I jump from 1312 to 1314 on the same Y level (or almost to 1312, like 1313.2) it triggers. It must be a jump, I must land on 1314, I can't land on 1313.9 and walk into 1314 it would seem.
7) If I sprint jump, I can go from 1312 to 1316: as soon as I land the subtitle triggers.
8) regardless of where I stand, how I cross the line, or how deep I am, it always indicates the sound is coming from the west (towards negative X), exactly west; if I rotate a little bit to the north or south the arrows indicate that it is perfectly west. I discovered this by jumping backwards from 1313 to 1314.
9) Correction, I can also get it while jumping up (increasing Y) from Z=-241 to Z=-240, along an increasing X starting at 1314. Presumably Z=-82 will do the same, and there's some maximum X that'll bound the box but I haven't gone looking yet, though it's probably around 1474 if it follows the Z coordinate pattern.

As was already suggested, I'm going to suspect that the subtitle is being displayed when the minecart is loaded: my server's view distance is 10 which seems to indicate 5 chunks loaded in either direction, so when I go from 1313 to 1314 it loads the next set of chunks with the minecart, same with the Z from -241 to -240, which means the minecart is probably somewhere at 1394,Y,-160, give or take 8, for some value of Y.
Assuming that's true (and I'll spend some time after finishing this to confirm it) the actual "bugs" then are:
1) Subtitle is displayed on chunk load even though the cart is not actually moving.
2) Subtitle is displayed on chunk load despite the fact that that's about 80m away in either the X or Z direction (or both) and regardless of Y position.
3) Subtitle appears to be linked to the landing following a jump for some reason, except in a boat.
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4) Subtitle indicates minecart is in negative X direction when clearly it is not.

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Minecart found at 1393, 38, -161
5) Subtitle is not displayed by minecart actually rolling. Subtitle is displayed when placing minecart. As per bug 4, subtitle indicates placed minecart is exactly in negative X direction even when placed due West (or any other direction)

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Very nice, David Goldsmith. I also noticed that, when I am in a boat, the "minecart rolls" subtitle would appear. So, I tested it and the subtitle appears before you come to the minecart. It depends on the view-distance on the server

Sonicwave

Confirmed for 1.11 (at least for minecarts).

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In 1.11 I'm playing on a Realm with some friends and I recently made a Hopper timer that would trigger an Observer to activate a Dispenser to quickly dispense at Y 26. With Subtitles turned on it show Dispensed Item from there all the way up to Y 92 even though you stop actually hearing the sound at around Y 36.

It's a problem because we're using the realm as a team PVP right now and that Subtitle Error can give away the base my team has.

Also the random Minecart sound is a thing in the realm because I heard it out in the middle of the ocean with no land masses in sight.

Sonicwave

Confirmed for 17w13a (and 17w14a). This also affects "Bottle smashes" and "Bat takes off"; the subtitles show up when the sounds are way out of range of the player.

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Affects 1.11.2, 17w14a & 17w15a

Sonicwave

Affects 1.12-pre2

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Affects 1.12.1-pre1.

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Also applies for "item dispensed"

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Confirmed for 17w43a and 17w43b.

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confirmed on 18w08a

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Is this still an issue in 1.13-pre7?

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Affects 1.13-pre8

Jayceebee

The "minecart rolls" can be removed from the list, from MC-37557 . Affects 18w30b

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I think "redstone torch fizzes" also displays from too far away, as well as "chorus flower grows" and "chorus flower withers". I'm in 1.14.4.

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Affects 19w34a

muzikbike

Worth noting that they also do add to the amount of sounds in the debug menu.

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Affects 19w44a.

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Affects 20w12a

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I want to say that some of the subtitles seem to be completely bogus.

I've seen "minecart rolls" many times while walking around the surface since the very beginning in this world. I have not built anything with minecarts.

I have seen "block broken" and "armor equipped" a couple times which is very strange since this is a singleplayer survival world.

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The "minecart rolls" means there's an abandoned mineshaft under you. The chests are chest carts and for whatever reason when stationary they still have a fraction of momentum (enough to move them a pixel in a few weeks). Or maybe they're ever so slightly in motion from bats bumping into them. Who knows. But if they're in motion they make sound, and this shows up on the subtitles even if you can't actually hear it. I'm hoping mojang won't fix that though, because they've already removed the other way to detect mineshafts from the surface (the air pockets in water removed sometime in 1.8 were an indicator of the abandoned mineshaft's start room). Not to mention the removal of those square depressions in sand that indicated a spawner dungeon.

I can't explain armor equipped though. A random guess would be: monsters who spawn equipped with armor don't have it on for the first tick of their existence, then equip it on the second tick. But that guess is probably wrong.

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mgatland

Confirmed

Accessibility, Sound

distance, range

Minecraft 15w43b, Minecraft 15w46a, Minecraft 16w06a, Minecraft 1.9, Minecraft 1.9.4, ..., 19w44a, 1.15.2, 20w10a, 20w12a, 20w14a

20w16a

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