[MCL-5830] New game output incompatible with some mods & older versions

New game output incompatible with any mods (even optifine and forge)
will just show a blank screen
also where can i find the option to leave open the game output for a single profile?

Linked issues

is duplicated by 14

MCL-6569 Minecraft doenst create crashlogs anymore Resolved

MCL-5708 Game Output Log Window is Useless Resolved

MCL-5729 Doesn't Output for 1.8x or Below Unlike Old Launcher Did Resolved

MCL-5800 game output not working with forge Resolved

MCL-5827 Minecraft 1.8.9 forge game output screen dous not display anything Resolved

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MCL-7483 The Game Output window will, after a short period of time, go blank, no buttons or anything. Resolved

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galaxy_2alex 2017-02-12T14:20:02Z

Can confirm with Optifine 1.11.2, only started occuring in one of the recent updates.

joseph 2017-02-13T21:55:58Z

Well fix it. It's an output log change and that's what's causing it. Forge doesn't know that these changes occurred. Used the same methods but, different code to redirect them to the game output log.

From what I have seen you are quick to close issues. Did it occur to you that like ten people reported this?

Here is from what I have seen that is causing the issue: I noticed the .json file was way differnt then the old .json making forge and any other modded or even plugins not working. For example an even basic output doesn't work.

System.out.println("Messege"); This code should work on any program and according to forge it doesn't. The .json file I noticed scanning it had different file loggers for the output to print to. Why don't you keep the same .json format for the loggers as the old one but, override the methods in the actual code for all forums of java game output to go to the new game output.

Uriel Salischiker 2017-02-13T21:58:11Z

They do, they have a open issue right now https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/issues/3696

joseph 2017-02-13T22:02:38Z

[Helper] Urielsalis: The launcher is a vanilla issue. I marked this on forge because, the actual minecraft team will not usually fix bugs regardless of who posted them. This is because, they don't properly get user input on how and where the bug occurred , and or don't properly test it themselves and then after all of that they quickly close the issue rather then confirming it (less then a day usally).

This Code here should work on any java program for output and it doesn't with any modding materiel added:
System.out.println("messege ");
System.out.print("messege no line feed");

The issue is the .json format changed with the game output so if you change it back to the old .json format for game output and then in the actual code that takes the .json re-assign it to the actual new game output it would be fixed. Again I only put this on forge github so they could fix this vanilla issue if you wouldn't.

Bree 2017-02-13T23:12:32Z

Confirming this myself as well.

EDIT: https://minecraft.net/en-us/download/alternative
Download second one if you have Windows.
Open your game and play. Ugh, thankfully this works.
Let them hash out that bug, enjoy your game.

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kumasasa 2017-02-14T07:35:04Z

@unknown: Stop doing what you're doing.
This site is not customer support, this site is a bug tracker.

Bree 2017-02-14T09:14:39Z

I don't understand, even as a bug forum why you guys are having us test it out. We can't even enjoy a game we paid for.

I'd be sitting on the forums all day. I get this isn't a help desk but users want to play the game not beta test. This isn't the way to get or keep customers.

Please relay that to your supervisor of you work for Mojang.
We bought the game to play it. Whether old or new and we're all concerned over the forced update launcher.
At least recognize we aren't open too sitting back and waiting.

We reported the bug. It's widely known and tweeted on your Twitter. At least revert our accounts back.
Not all of us want to update.

Thanks.

galaxy_2alex 2017-02-14T09:27:17Z

@Breanna Rohde
The issue is currently indeed being investigated. Please also note that all moderators on this site are volunteers, and they are testing the bugs reported within their own capabilities (and I did test this particular bug as you can see in the comments, and was able to confirm it).

The new launcher is only causing issues for a very small, but loud minority of players, and is working fine for the rest, and barely anyone is concerned over the update.

If you want to help people fix their issues, which you seem eager to do, please do it on the Forums, or the tech support chatroom, but please don't do it on the bug tracker. Thanks.

Bree 2017-02-14T09:33:14Z

Fine. I can do that.

And I can understand you are volunteers hence the "if" before supervisor but it's not just a matter of broken launcher.
The whole thing. WHOLE thing opened up and all my profiles for my versions were lost. When I tried to get a bug report, I couldn't even get that, and then on the new launcher I was looking for the help desk or to report a bug and it wasn't an option. I had to HUNT for this site.

I just opened it to play my usual game.
I was almost in tears the headache of problems I have to jump through hoops to try to fix it. I don't even want to touch it.

This is frustrating on ALL levels and I've been having a rough enough week. The least Mojang could have done was allow an opt in button even if it was a beta launcher or not.

This is all I have to say. I'm done.
Bye.

Bree 2017-02-14T10:04:20Z

Thank you.

If you do find a solution for this is, I'm still watching this. I don't want to play any other version than my 1.7.10. forge, liteloader, and everything included.
The launcher solved half the problem but I noticed other changes were within the game that won't allow me to open any modded game. I can only open vanilla.

At least you can get into your game though.
Mine is a mess.
I can't make heads or tails of it.

Bradley Johnson 2017-02-17T00:36:02Z

I copied an older launcher from a another computer and am launching it from a jar file located inside of the files. I don't know if I needed a copy because I realized that because it's a jar file, it requires Java. And last I knew, they stopped using Java so chances are that the jar file is untouched and a remenecent of the older launcher..

I really wanted that Tumblr post so that I could see the change log... not to mention a non-frozen game output for modded game sessions. Even if I don't use the output much, it's nice to have.

joseph 2017-02-18T00:11:38Z

Any news on when jeb is going to fix this? I hinted it was the new .json format telling the output is different which somehow made everything else incompatible.

joseph 2017-02-22T07:48:34Z

Why has no one been assigned to resolve this issue?

Nova Leary 2017-02-23T01:38:44Z

I can't get Optifine nor any other mod to load up output in the new launcher logger.. Will there be a fix to this?

Tucker Rodrigues 2017-02-23T02:38:14Z

I also couldn't get any mods to load, or even a clean install of Minecraft Forge by itself. After "tinkering" around trying to fix my problem, I can't even get vanilla to work, a vanilla game will load up and open, but as soon as I switch to the MC window it crashes, and leaves no crash report for me to look at.

joseph 2017-03-10T02:44:24Z

Why is no one still not assigned to this issue? Admins help to get this issue fixed

Jack Tyler 2017-03-11T16:58:53Z

Mine crashes halfway through, however, I have an option to debug it. This only happens when I update mods however. If I debug it, it gives me this error: Unhandled exception at 0x76D9A832 (KernelBase.dll) in minecraft.exe: 0xE0000008.
I hope this helps.

Nova Leary 2017-03-12T02:20:14Z

The new update still doesn't load logs for FML