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Still able to reproduce in 16w14a, both by dropping and with commands. The command I'm using is:
/tp @e[type=Item] 76 65 -112.1249Still (16w06a) able to get this bug by just throwing items, though it does seem less common than before. Able to reproduce it 100% of the time by teleporting an item to just over #.875, which is on the edge of a block.
Still present in 14w40b 15w40b.
Can confirm.
The slot.armor slots seem to all target the slot 2 numbers lower than what they should. Thus, you can replace boots with slot.armor.chest slot, leggings with slot.armor.head, mainhand with slot.armor.feet, and offhand with slot.armor.legs.
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I think your definition of a bug is a lot more open than mine, though as Mustek said it'd probably be best to get a Mojangsta's view on it. If it never was a feature to exclude them, I wouldn't call endermen picking up player blocks a bug either, unless it was intended to not happen; poor balance maybe, but not a bug.
The fact that many believe that it was once a feature of vanilla Minecraft (whether true or not) simply proves that this missing functionality feels awkward at best and buggy at worst.
I'd say it more shows that people get Bukkit/Essentials and vanilla confused, a belief probably proliferated by the fact that many of these servers still advertise as "Vanilla", "Vanilla style", or "No mods". I play on pure vanilla servers a lot, and I've seen many people come on and act confused at the lack of /home, /r, /ping, /afk, or other Essentials commands.
Maybe it shows that people want these commands/features, but I certainly wouldn't go as far as to say that this "simply proves" that it's "buggy".
@BlakeMiner
I don't think the question is "whether or not it should be fixed", and "fixed" already assumes that it's a bug. If it is a bug, it should be fixed. If it isn't a bug, then this is not the place to discuss adding it as a feature. Deciding if it is a bug or not is what I've been trying to do. Establishing that it was never previously in the game is an important step. I believe that a lot of people were calling it a bug under the illusion that it was once in the game, but had at some point been broken. Look at the early replies to this; the main reason it seems to have been accepted as a bug because people remembered it being a feature.
There are many similar intended mechanics that work on mobs but not players. You can push mobs around, but not players. You can leash mobs, but you can't leash players (with neither a lead nor a fishing rod).
Balance-wise I don't think it would make sense for it to be intended. If you hit a player once with a fishing rod and you're above them, would you pull them up then be able to drop them down until they die? On top of that, is there actually code handling players pulling other players with fishing rods? If there's code there that just happens to be broken, then it's likely that this is a bug, but if there isn't any attempt to make this possible, it's likely not intended to exist. Not to say that it couldn't be added as a feature in the future, though.
I've compiled a bunch of videos showing snowballs having no knockback throughout different versions of vanilla (PVP on by default) survival:
1.8.3 full release (Latest version)
1.0.5 alpha (The first version in which snowballs existed)
Unless anyone has any objections (perhaps this was only a feature very briefly between these listed versions, or there's something wrong with my testing method), it would seem as if this is not a feature that accidentally got removed, but that it never existed in vanilla to begin with.
@Ray Nope, checked the server given in the description, it's definitely modded.
If they're not actually using the linked server then there are other things that show it's not vanilla that I found from the next episode:
There's probably a lot more, but I think that's sufficient to show that they are playing on a modded server.
@JonathanHynes
I'm not brushing the ticket off as a feature request. I do not think it is a feature request. Even if this was never implemented into the game, and I am leaning slightly towards it having been a feature at some point, this ticket would clearly just be a mistake, not an attempt at suggesting a feature.
I am replying to Blake Miner, who is literally claiming feature requests should be allowed here, and that it shouldn't matter whether it's a bug or not.
Edit: Blake originally made two posts, and then deleted the second, so my post is perhaps lacking some context now.
@BlakeMiner
This is a bug tracker, not a place to suggest features. This report should be here if snowballs are meant to cause knock back but don't, of which them doing so in the past would be a good indication. The report shouldn't be here just because you think it would be a good idea for them to cause knock back.
If people just used this as a way to get their suggestions more attention, no matter how trivial they think it would be for devs to implement, the tracker would be abused and bastardized from floods of suggestions, and actual bugs would be extremely annoying to find and fix.
So yes, it does matter if this is a bug. If you want to suggest a feature, try http://www.reddit.com/r/minecraftsuggestions or http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions.
@JonathanHynes Tried, haven't got a response yet. If this actually existed, it should be way easier to find a video or version number than it would be to contact and hope for a response from a dev. Plus it would be definite proof.
@Votuko
I'm personally leaning towards it having existed in Vanilla, but when I started to look for proof I couldn't find any. I'd also like the version number so I can look at what actually caused this bug.
The bug tracker mods themselves were seemingly unsure of whether or not this was ever a feature, and their word is not always 100% correct; if you look at the Transitions Summary, no Mojang employee has confirmed it.
Snowballs, when initially implemented, did no knock back, damage, or visual affect. The wiki page of the time notes this (bottom of trivia).
Anecdotes are unreliable, and don't really help me with finding the version in which this is a feature. Many players were likely playing on Bukkit, even without knowledge, or otherwise modded serves (if it isn't the case that this was once a vanilla feature).
I checked out release 1.2.4 and, like many other versions, snowballs do not appear to cause knock back.
@VincentLee I checked a whole bunch of versions through alpha and beta, none of them had knockback. I can't really disprove it without checking every single version, but it should be easy to prove if you remember roughly when you had snowball fights.
I'm mainly trying to discover in what version, if any, snowballs had knockback to players.
Also source on this statement that you remember?
@VincentLee You can change server versions with something like Minecraft Version Changer. I'm trying to find definite proof whether this was a feature or not, as some people also remember it not being.
@VincentLee Can you show what version this bug does not exist on? I used to think that this was a Bukkit only feature.
Can someone show that this was ever a vanilla feature?
Appears to be fixed.
Not fixed. Still very much present in 1.8.2. Can provide video if necessary.
Minecraft, even on singleplayer, is split into a server running in the background and a client. Command blocks running outside of the client's render distance is a prime example of something that will lag the server, but not the client.
As far as I can tell, this is just lag. Try optimizing your use of command blocks.
@Marcono1234 The Works As Intended resolution was added by a Mojang employee, so presumably they don't intend for snowballs/enderpearls/eggs to knock back players (not to say it will never be added as a feature, like with fishing rods, just that it isn't a bug).