[MC-153997] Crossbow Multishot Backfiring 1.14.x+

Duplicate created (154027) due to false resolution of this (153997) bug

First, let me say that this is a 1.14 bug not exclusive to 1.14.2+, as I only found it now and cannot add previous versions even under the current branch version. New user to the bug tracker.

Second, to properly document this bug, I would need a screen video recorder program, upon which I do not have.

Now then, the bug. When a crossbow is enchanted with multishot, it will only ever work as if it was enchanted with level 1, as obtainable by survival methods without commands. A multishot crossbow will fire 3 projectiles, of which are normal arrows, spectral arrows, tipped arrows, and fireworks. To whom is reading this, I am not reporting another crossbow firework bug, as there appears to be plenty of those already. I am reporting a bug that affects (as many as I could test) 1.13 versions as well as 1.14 versions. Crossbows enchanted with multishot are designed to shoot 3 arrows, upon which I have seen they do. But when 2 or more (3) arrows hit the same large target, or are fired from too close a range, they reflect off the target, and "drop/reflect" back to hit the shooter. This works with plain arrows as well as tipped ones. I have not tried spectral arrows or fireworks, but I would ASSUME they DO affect spectral arrows and DON'T affect fireworks. From what I have seen, nobody has caught or reported this issue, which is surprising but I guess not everybody tried to hit multiple multishot arrows on the same entity.

The Entities which are shot contain (but are not limited to) Pillagers, Iron Golems, Villagers, Ravagers, Vindicators, Witches, Zombies, and the Vex summoning (not vexes) Illager. I discovered the bug during a raid, and did minimal further testing. However, I tried using different 1.14.x and 1.13.x versions, and the bug remained. Shooting an entity with multiple arrows consecutively and ending up being shot by every arrow (1-2) aside from one is not a works as intended feature, and I have no idea what is causing it.

To trigger the bug, Obtain by commands, creative, mob slaying, enchanting, or fishing + crafting, a crossbow with multishot, and thenfore get close enough to a mob to hit it with TWO of the three or ALL THREE arrows from the crossbow. I would recommend shooting a large mob such as the aforementioned Iron Golem or Ravager, and shooting whilst in survival to further prove the arrows aim back to and harm the shooter. The tipped arrows tested kept their tipped effects and applied them without any sign of changing intensity or duration to both the shooter when 'reflected' and the intended target.

Low but annoying priority, reported June 6th 2019

Linked issues

duplicates 1

MC-145982 Multishot doesn't deal more damage when more than one arrow hit a mob at once Resolved

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[Bot] Arisa 2019-06-07T00:17:09Z

Please do not mark unreleased versions as affected.
You don't have access to them yet.

gaspoweredpick 2019-06-07T00:30:03Z

Please don't put your description of the bug in the "environment" section. I moved your description into the "description" section to make it not look empty and to make the information more accessible.

violine1101 2019-06-07T12:11:17Z

Although this ticket does not quite describe the same thing as MC-145982 (since this ticket is about two arrows, the other one about three hitting the same mob at once), it is working as intended for the very same reason. One of the arrows will always be the first, and damage the mob. After a mob takes damage, it will be invincible for a short amount of time. This applies to all mobs.

I've changed the summary of MC-145982 to be more general.

If I have misunderstood what your ticket is about, please leave a comment here.

violine1101 2019-06-07T12:13:42Z

Also see MC-140857 for arrows bouncing off of mobs, which is a separate issue.

Bravewind 2019-06-07T12:23:07Z

https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-153997?focusedCommentId=554845&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-554845

You have understood my ticket, as this would not be a duplicate of MC-145982, nor a works as intended, but a "relates to". This would be an addition and further testing/proof of bug for MC-140857, and hopefully grounds to (in summary) expand the bug from Quick Charge 5 to Quick Charge 5 + Multishot 1

@violine1101 🙂✔

6 more comments

Bravewind 2019-06-11T21:32:35Z

Could I please have a staff member reopen (And talk to violine as needed for changes undone) this issue?

violine1101 2019-06-12T13:11:30Z

Hi, I'm not quite sure why we should reopen this issue? MC-145982 is about only one arrow being able to hit an entity at a time (which is intended), and MC-140857 is about arrows bouncing away from mobs upon impact instead of damaging them. Is there anything that is not covered in either of those tickets, but in this one? We don't need the same issue to be described in multiple separate tickets.

Bravewind 2019-06-13T15:45:56Z

Hi,

MC-145982 is an issue, mentioned in a single snapshot version of 1.14 about the damage output of a crossbow based on a multiple hit from firing once with a multishot enchanted crossbow. It is marked 'Works As Intended' because it does, multishot is MEANT to hit multiple mobs at once, and due to Minecraft's slight cooldown between hits, the arrows that hit when more than one does, don't stack up in damage. There is a generalized summary in the form of a complaining concern about the issue with no specifics. It's a crossbow, not a birdshot shotgun.

MC-140857 is an issue mentioned in 1.13.2, three snapshots of 1.14, and the second pre release of 1.14.3 about a crossbow, forcefully enchanted by commands only with a high level (and the highest functioning level without a reverse effect if I might add) Quick charge enchantment, used in quick succession on the same mob where the occasional (every second at most by my own testings as the second of every arrow fired can be done so fast enough to land before the first has taken its' full cooldown time, but only fast enough for one after to follow a hit arrow before the next (third) would become a first hit arrow in the sequence, no more) arrow will bounce off the same mob that was just shot. While they do not specify a mob, I do not believe they would have to, as every mob that can be shot (notable exceptions such as endermen cannot be shot) has the damage cooldown, as well as regardless of being shot as the method of damage, and they are specific about how to cause this. While my opinion may not hold much weight, arguably such a crossbow enchantment on a crossbow shouldn't exist as the level is higher than both obtainable by survival as well as creative, however I can see the use for minigames or other purposes as a fast firing ranged weapon with more damage than eggs or snowballs, and finally a stable, vanilla way to have a fast bow without needing external hardware. I do not doubt, and quite so agree, that while a difficult issue to create, it is indeed one.

MC-153997 is (my) issue, noted in 1.14.2, two 1.14.3 pre releases, tested in multiple other 1.14.x and 1.13.x versions, about a crossbow enchanted with multishot [1] (starting to create differences with MC-140857) that shoots the player when multiple arrows land on the same target. (starting to create differences with MC-145982) It is replicate-able in both survival and creative, (I have not tested adventure), obtainable by survival, creative, or command methods, affects large mobs and 'player-sized' mobs, and the only distance limit is how far the player can be away from the mob being shot while multiple arrows still landing on the same target. I agree that it does share a few similarities to the aforementioned issues, however they are not the same one(s).

Shooting something and being shot yourself is most certainly not working as intended, and while the lack of increased damage output is still present, Both: that was the end of the compared issue, and there is more than just the lack of damage issue present. MC-153997 encompasses MC-154982 wholly aside from the version tested (as I only tested stable versions) builds upon and goes beyond it. There is the [unmentioned within the issue] lack of damage increase (that I expected), arrows bouncing off (which I also expected), the player being shot by their own arrows, and the arrows not reflecting but actually travelling to come back and hit the player without a shown animation (when arrows reflect, they act as if the point of reflection is the [second] point of firing, and as if they are travelling hotizontally though water, and vertically though air, being able to fall at a normal rate but with little-to-no momentum. What I am describing (and reporting) is arrows fired from up to ~6 blocks away, touching but not hitting, disappearing, and within ~1.4 seconds, hitting the player with as much force AS IF they were reflected, even if the player is able to move ~4 blocks backwards from the time of firing)

My issue and MC-140857 share some commonalities like a Venn diagram. They both deal with multiple arrows hitting the same mob, 1.13.2 and 1.14.3-pre2, arrows bouncing off the mob they should've hit, [enchanted] crossbow fired arrows, and obtainable necessary equipment via commands. However, mine deals with survival obtainable while theirs does not, mine deals with creative obtainable while theirs does not, mine deals with one shot while theirs deals with multiple successively quick shots, mine deals with [unintended] being shot while theirs does not, mine deals with strange [and arguably tracking] arrow travel while theirs does not, theirs is mob unspecific while mine remains to be seen, and arguably IS mob specific due to mobs such as the baby chicken, endermite, silverfish, and so on, and finally, mine deals with multishot while theirs deals with quick charge.

In summary, 145982 is one detail of 153997 that does indeed work as intended, while 140857 and 153997 are obtainable by different methods, caused by different methods, give off different effects, and while sharing multiple commonalities along the way, they do not share all their respecitve details, and there are details belonging to both that are specific to them and them only. Generally and wholly speaking, they are both different, valid, issues. One CANNOT encompass the other, therefore proving they are indeed different. @violine1101

Bravewind 2019-06-17T03:24:39Z

Issue needs reopening, as stated above. Can a staff please contact Violine (decision override or to-be-made) as she seems to not see this and I end up waiting days for a response that doesn't come

violine1101 2019-06-17T15:11:23Z

I have seen your response and this ticket is still on my list of tickets to take a look at if I have time. Please be patient. Note that mods and helpers are not Mojang employees but volunteers who manage the bug tracker in their spare time.

Bravewind 2019-06-24T21:55:19Z

Confirmed in 1.14.3 as of bug fix changelog for 1.14.3 as well as changelogs for 1.14.3-pre1 through 1.14.3-pre4

Bravewind 2019-06-26T00:25:16Z

Needs reopening please... hopefully not 'whenever'

Bravewind 2019-06-27T17:28:31Z

Issue needs reopening please

violine1101 2019-06-30T14:37:10Z

I believe that you have a few misconceptions about how the bug tracker works. To clear that up:

A ticket that has been resolved will no longer be updated with new affects versions, as the behaviour is not a bug.
The versions that are in the "Affects version/s" field are only versions that someone confirmed that the issue still exists in. A version missing from that list does not necessarily mean that it is not occuring in that version.
MC-140857 is a general ticket about arrows bouncing off mobs. It provides a way to reproduce the issue; that is not the only way in which the issue occurs though. It's just the easiest way to check if the issue still happens.
"Shooting something and being shot yourself is most certainly not working as intended"... yes, that's why MC-140857 is still open!
"My issue and MC-140857 share some commonalities like a Venn diagram.": Not quite, MC-140857 is about arrows bouncing off mobs, and this ticket is about arrows bouncing off a mobs if shooting the mob with a crossbow that has been enchanted with multishot.

This ticket remains resolved, as it is completely covered by MC-140857 and MC-145982.

I'd also to take this opportunity to issue a warning to you – please don't spam the comments to bump your ticket.

Bravewind 2019-07-01T16:39:42Z

I have not been spamming comments to bump my own issue. As stated, detailed, and summarized above, MC-153997 (this) has a few minor commonalities shared by the other issues, and very much is not covered wholly or by a 'good enough' standard by the other issues. As I would rather this not become a heated argument, and that we do not seem to be getting on the same page, may I ask that my issue be 'assigned' to a different staff member for review?

Bravewind 2020-08-27T19:19:09Z

To whom is reading this, this issue MC-153997 is still active, awaiting another staff member to reopen it as the resolution was premature and is invalid. It has been retested and confirmed in the original version, each additionally stated version, randomly in the latest versions since, and in the current version. Any professional courtesy for another set of eyes to look this over and give it proper consideration and vetting would be appreciated.

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