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Spawning Iron Golems - Iron Ingot Exploit

In both single-player and multi-player, creative mode and survival mode, Iron golems will spawn to protect villagers. However, people may make square boxes with water draining to the center, and put containers with villagers on each side to 'spawn' iron golems and have them fall like with a normal grinder.

This is a problem with multi-player servers as they are able to produce a doublechest of iron ingots in just a few hours - and this is a form of exploiting (producing an infinite amount of iron ingots, just like how sand/gravel factories made infinite sand/gravel).

My suggestion: either remove them from dropping anything like with the snow golems ... or have them just drop roses since they do that anyways. Please consider this - ekl

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Marked as private for exploit reasons.

IMO is this working as intended. That's a normal item farm.

@Kumasasa - That is true, it 'IS' working, however, as I may recall Iron golem's original feature was to spawn in a village and protect the villagers from humans and mobs.
Snow golems can be crafted with 2 snow blocks and a pumpkin - and when killed drop around 8 snow balls (2 snow blocks worth)
Iron golems can be crafted with 4 iron blocks and a pumpkin - and when killed drop around 3 - 5 iron ingots and 0 - 2 roses.
-However, Iron golems may also 'spawn' in an area where players can trick the system into thinking an 'iron golem may spawn here' that the area is in a villager village, by placing boxes with villagers in them on the edges of a holding cell, and placing doors around it ... that way they may spawn, fall down away from the spawning cell, and spawn more - essentially an infinite source of iron ingots.

  • I mentioned this to some communities/servers themselves, and most of the players who voted of keeping them up - I checked and found out they already had some iron golem farms, were earning huge amount of ingots (few double-chests every few hours) .... and selling them for a large price (on economic servers).

  • The ones who voted we should see if we could have the 'exploit' removed - wanted original game play and said 'Iron should only be obtained through hard work, such as mining or buying it from the store (The servers economy shop)'.

IMO I think it should be removed as it's taking away from the spirit of game play, much like the sand-generator, gravel-generator, and duplicators did - I believe this is similar, and should be considered in a non-biased, yet 'what will the outcome be?' stance.

Thanks for reading my comment - ekl

This is not a duplication glitch; you are not making multiple iron ingots from a single ingot, you're getting them as mob drops, as designed. This is a game balance issue, not a bug or exploit, and as such it's out of scope for this issue tracker.

I'll reword it then - we must be viewing the perspective of 'duplication' differently ... I'm not meaning it's taking iron ingots and actually duplicating them; I'm saying Iron Golems can be falsely spawned outside of a village and repeatedly killed in vast numbers to obtain a large quantity (about a Double-chest an hour max by just standing still) of iron ingots. Maybe you say 'This' works as intended - but it 'Is' still considered an exploit - for people can, in a sense, cheat to obtain iron ingots quickly - instead of just mining for them as originally intended. (Side note: If people want that many iron ingots by cheating - they might as well use creative mode to give themselves the ingots.)

It has been a few months, but this is still able to occur - I'd like to do a post update real quick: With 1.5 update there are now hoppers ... The iron golem's dropping iron ingots endlessly and with the hoppers, can fill up chests automatically with ingots unless if the farm's are destroyed. My suggestion, like with the last one - Just like how a snow golem is crafted using snow blocks and a pumpkin and doesn't drop the same items used to craft it with, the iron golems could do the same, drop a generic item like the roses only.

Please do not mark unreleased versions as affected. You do not have access to this yet.

Is the resolution able to be changed now that 1.8 is basically fixing the iron ingot-farming issue?

@eklektoi :

if this is a bug in your opinion, have you also opened tickets for overworld mob farms, gold farms, endermen farms, squid farms, spawner-based farms ?

@eklektoi , 1.8 does remove AFK iron golem farming by making iron a player kill only drop. However the golems can simply be held in a chamber where the player drops tnt on them, as tnt counts as a player kill. This makes it harder but not impossible.

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golem, multiplayer, singleplayer

Minecraft 1.4.4, Minecraft 1.4.6, Minecraft 1.4.7, Snapshot 13w06a, Snapshot 13w07a, Minecraft 1.5, Snapshot 13w11a, Minecraft 1.5.1

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