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MCPE-169059

Ghost chunks render from seed data

When loading any chunk in the latest preview, they get visually and physically regenerated until they reload some seconds or minutes later. Once they properly load you will retain your position and every other stat, so your movement in these chunks does carry over.
This is deadly in worlds carried over from 1.17 or below, since world generation is completely different, you could be flying through plains and suddenly be suffocating inside a mountain, since the actual world would have a mountain there and the plains were just ghost chunks that hadn't loaded properly.

In these ghost chunks you cannot use fireworks yet they dissapear from the inventory as if you did (Which is REALLY deadly in The End).
Placing and destroying a block wont yield any drops, but instead replace itself and a block above and below with air
That behaviour is similar to MCPE-167185, yet i couldn't find any mention of the ghost chunk issue, so im filing it separately.

I believe the issue is that the game loads chunks from the seed data to ease world loading, but ends up messing up since the actual world might not be how the blank seed would generate, resulting in ghost chunks the player can freely move when they wouldn't be able to in the actual world.

Video example of the bug: 
https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aj1Iy1GB4U2cxlZQ7VySOAh-eLK7?e=i2iNyc

(Windows just wouldn't let me record, so i had to do so from my cellphone, sorry)

Related issues

BDS-19412 Chunks first start loading when coming near them MCPE-170619 Ghost chunks kill animals and players MCPE-170755 Chunk error updating old save file to new version MCPE-172356 Realm chunk download problem MCPE-177083 Issue with chunks during the loading process MCPE-177984 World loading out of nether portal wrong MCPE-179336 Problem with the Nether Portal MCPE-179340 The portal to nether is not working correctly. MCPE-180434 Chunk error while riding minecart and the browsing the marketplace MCPE-181378 Latest update nether portal fail MCPE-181999 End Gateways teleport to empty space above void MCPE-182188 Old world loads new terrain when exiting nether to overworld MCPE-182502 Nether Portal sending player to wrong location MCPE-183123 Nether portal teleports me to random spot and not the portal. MCPE-183133 Realms seem to be lagging when more than two people are around exploring the server. MCPE-184261 There are areas/holes that take a long time to render in when joining the world or entering area MCPE-184965 Nether portal travel to overworld placing player below portal MCPE-185002 Structures changing when getting closer REALMS-11339 Some Large Areas of Chunks Reset and then Revert Back to What They Should Be REALMS-11745 terrain rendering issues REALMS-11840 Nether Portal broken / terrain generation showing terrain from wrong version and not loading player modifications in Nether when changing dimensions REALMS-11862 Falling threw nether portals REALMS-11925 Loading chunks unmodified REALMS-12148 Bedrock Realms chunk preview/generation glitch

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GoldenHelmet

A milder example of this is shown in the video below: a tree teleports as the player approaches.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609927246106460170/1088601866520252538/what2.mp4

Here grass on the beach appears to teleport.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/609927246106460170/1092294240110907493/2023-04-02_23-45-11.mp4

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Will you be able to export and upload the world here, or share with any shareable site? 
This issue may be related to MCPE-162480 IMO.
Also I wonder, is this with all worlds in this version? Newly created as well?

hadulm

Hi @magwar

Here is a copy of my world
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XEDDcFWxo0wPmS3j7tBNfr4N5FLsWpOD/view?usp=share_link
But i dont really think there is a problem with it (well at least causing this haha, there is an unrelated issue because i downgraded it from 1.19 to 1.18 long ago using chunker and all of my old terrain now has no new generation below and its just void below y0 on most chunks, so dont worry about it)

This issue does happen in other and newly created worlds too. But since the world generation of every chunk in new world is the same as the seed since its... brand new, it's hardly noticed in new worlds. The only noticeable thing there would be that going into new chunks would replace blocks with air when trying to interact with them until it loads properly some time later.

Im sure it's something about the seed data and not some random generation issue because i know how my personal world seed would look with current generation, and the ghost chunks look exactly as if i were exploring them for the first time in newer versions, but it still could be something else, im just trying to provide as much information as i can.

(also, upon further testing and paying more attention, i've discovered this pretty much only happens the first time loading chunks after opening the world, but if you were to log out and log back in it would happen again, as if the problem was getting the chunk data in memory for the first time.
also also mobs bug out when stepping in these chunks, specially mounts like horses)

[Mod] OcelotOnesie

Noticed this issue in the Greek Mythology Mash-Up world.

silentwisperer

I managed to catch some footage of this happening here https://youtu.be/TFxtSi3KKv8?t=209

I also noticed this in the recent betas (1.20.10.20) if you fly around in a cave system in brand new chunks you can occasionally see decorations like sculk blocks change positions. Rendered chunks in the distance change once they are actually loaded.

hadulm

From what I've tested, this issue ONLY happens in preview versions, I've played every preview since i made this report and in every single one it happens.
I tested if it would happen on the latest releases (Will test again once 1.20 releases, but im sure it won't be affected either), and no, the game behaves normally, so i think this could be an issue with how preview builds are compiled or something?

Asdra

multiple people on the realm I play on have fallen through the ice path and died, though I mostly just have the issue of being inside a chunk of netherrack for a few seconds, I finally fell and was able to get a clip though my case was still less intense than the others have had: https://www.xbox.com/play/media/5HVGL2JK65

David-Nornal

Since this Bug appeared, it seems to have appeared in Every Preview Edition,because I never had seen in Release Edition.

Affects in 1.20.60.21 Preview

AgentMindStorm2

Worth nothing, this causes MAJOR lag spikes when the game has to reload the ghost chunk into a chunk with real data.

Asdra

Previously, I was only encountering ghost chunks while flying, but now I’m loading into them when going through nether portals. Is this the same bug or a new one with the same effect? Each portal ghost chunk I’m seeing either puts me underwater or inside netherrack, but doesn’t cause any suffocation, although it did make the damage sound anyway on one particulatly laggy portal travel

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I have been getting this is my old world for several updates now. I am not in preview, this is an unmodded full release survival world. We only see this when going through portals to the overworld.  

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So I'm not having the issue of flying and going into goast chunks I'm having a issue where going threw the nether portal and sometimes falling threw it into I guess goast chunks I don't think these are the same issue

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/WjiDdfYSqW

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/wztz3rk8QG

 

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Same bug on my realm on Xbox series S. We have a problem since 1.21. when we move in the realm the game load chunks unmodified. The modifications run step by step.

migrated

This is happening quite often in realms although seemingly at random.  When entering the overworld into an area underground that has since been cleared the game initially renders the stone that was part of the seed before updating a few seconds later.  In the nether if you have a portal on a raised platform there is a chance of falling past the floor before it has a chance to render.  I recently took a swim in lava due to this issue.

108CAM

For me, this issue has been slowly worsening with larger areas of ghost chunks and lag spikes 

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Destructernator

This is still happening on my realm as of Garden Awakens update, not on preview

GhostlysGolden

I'm not sure if anyone else is experiencing this, but it seems a side effect of this is a huge amount of lag going down to 5 frames a second.

hadulm

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Windows

1.21.82 Hotfix, 1.20.0.25 Preview, 1.19.80.23 Preview, 1.19.80.22 Preview, 1.20.0.24 Preview, ..., 1.20.81 Hotfix, 1.21.0, 1.21.3 Hotfix (PS4), 1.21.2 Hotfix, 1.21.22 Hotfix

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