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Bees disappearing

I started my world in a version before bees. I decided to explore to find some and bring them home which I did. Once I had done so I tried to breed them up to a sustainable number to roam around my home base before starting some farms. When doing so I noticed the bees were occasionally flying into the campfires below my starter hives and damaging themselves. Also when I placed my first hive created from honeycombs I quickly had to remove nearby sweet berry bushes because I caught bees emerging from the hive and promptly flying over to them and getting damaged. I thought maybe it was the proximity though the lostest were three or bour blocks away. I went around cleaning things up and finding/growing more flowers to feed my bees before I signed off for the day. Keep in mind that I thought I had 8 or 9 bees at this point though it had been a Minecraft day or two since I had counted them, I thought I was giving the babies time to grow up to help me make more. When I signed back on and went to feed the flowers I had gathered to my bees I was waiting for them to emerge from the nests/hive before I realized I could only find two widely separate of them!  I do not know what happened to all the ones that I had before, wether they failed to reload when I came back or if they all were damaged to death on various environmental  threats when I wasn’t looking.  I  do not think they should be that susceptible to non player threats.

unfortunately I lost my remaining bees to an unrelated problem and now need to start my bee search all over again.

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After finding more bees, breeding and experimenting with a greenhouse I have come to the conclusion the sweet berries had something to do with it. My bees cannot resist them and constantly hover over and through any bushes they find.  The problem is they are NOT immune to the damage affect if you get too close and are constantly pricking themselves to death  I have to remove any bush the bees can com in contact with.  It appears if you have any sweet berries in any way accessible to your bees,  they will all soon die.

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After finding more bees, breeding and experimenting with a greenhouse I have come to the conclusion the sweet berries had something to do with it. My bees cannot resist them and constantly hover over and through any bushes they find.  The problem is they are NOT immune to the damage affect if you get too close and are constantly pricking themselves to death  I have to remove any bush the bees can com in contact with.  It appears if you have any sweet berries in any way accessible to your bees,  they will all soon die.

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This may have happened to my bees too. I live in a taiga biome which I brought a bee to, but there are several sweet berry patches which may have killed my bee. 😞 

There were three hives for it to go to yet it has not come back.

The java edition has this, but bees have sweet berry immunity. A simple fix should solve this, upvote so moderators see it.

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This may have happened to my bees too. I live in a taiga biome which I brought a bee to, but there are several sweet berry patches which may have killed my bee. 😞 

There were three hives for it to go to yet it has not come back.

The java edition has this, but bees have sweet berry immunity. A simple fix should solve this, upvote so moderators see it.

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My bees have been disappearing as well.

Sweet berry bushes are included in the list of plants/crops that bees will pollinate, but they damage the bees when they attempt to pollinate them. I think that's what is making my bees disappear. I also read that they are damaged by water but will avoid it.

I would like to see sweet berry immunity added for the bees in other editions, so they will stop being damaged and dying/disappearing.

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My bees have been disappearing as well.

Sweet berry bushes are included in the list of plants/crops that bees will pollinate, but they damage the bees when they attempt to pollinate them. I think that's what is making my bees disappear. I also read that they are damaged by water but will avoid it.

I would like to see sweet berry immunity added for the bees in other editions, so they will stop being damaged and dying/disappearing.

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(Java - 15.1)

My bees disappear a lot too and I don't have any berry bushes around. 

I saw it once that a bee hurt itself in the fire, so I moved the flowers away a bit and haven't seen it again.

I've had it multiple times now that bees just disappeared on me from one moment to the other. 

 

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(Java - 15.1)

My bees disappear a lot too and I don't have any berry bushes around. 

I saw it once that a bee hurt itself in the fire, so I moved the flowers away a bit and haven't seen it again.

I've had it multiple times now that bees just disappeared on me from one moment to the other. 

 

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A few things to know about bees and preventing their losses:

1)  bees are max 3 per hive.  if you breed more than 3X the number of hives you have, the surplus will fly off in search of new hives.  This can be prevented by #5 below.

2)  bees don't always remember their way home so expect some loss due to random walkabouts even if you have sufficient hives and flowers for them.

3)  bees can accidentally fly horizontally (never vertically) into campfires so never place them on level ground.  instead, dig one block down (1x1).  simple.

4)  I have no experience putting bees near berry bushes but I expect it is the same premise as putting bees near campfires.  Try the one block down strategy?

5)  glass greenhouses are great for stopping bee loss.  just add some kind of a doorway for entry/exit and don't forget the roof!  bees can fly very high.

Bonus:  if you are using bees for pollinating your crops, put your crops inside the glass greenhouse, place a few flowers down, breed your bees until there are too many for your beehive count, then sit back and watch "pollinated bees with no home" endlessly fly around your crops.  Until they enter a beehive, they will drip pollen onto everything.  If you don't need the honey, you can remove all hives inside the greenhouse, too.

Extra Bonus:  always have 3 or more honeycombs set aside for making new beehives in case of total loss.  Then repopulate the wild hive(s) by over-breeding your crafted beehive(s).

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A few things to know about bees and preventing their losses:

1)  bees are max 3 per hive.  if you breed more than 3X the number of hives you have, the surplus will fly off in search of new hives.  This can be prevented by #5 below.

2)  bees don't always remember their way home so expect some loss due to random walkabouts even if you have sufficient hives and flowers for them.

3)  bees can accidentally fly horizontally (never vertically) into campfires so never place them on level ground.  instead, dig one block down (1x1).  simple.

4)  I have no experience putting bees near berry bushes but I expect it is the same premise as putting bees near campfires.  Try the one block down strategy?

5)  glass greenhouses are great for stopping bee loss.  just add some kind of a doorway for entry/exit and don't forget the roof!  bees can fly very high.

Bonus:  if you are using bees for pollinating your crops, put your crops inside the glass greenhouse, place a few flowers down, breed your bees until there are too many for your beehive count, then sit back and watch "pollinated bees with no home" endlessly fly around your crops.  Until they enter a beehive, they will drip pollen onto everything.  If you don't need the honey, you can remove all hives inside the greenhouse, too.

Extra Bonus:  always have 3 or more honeycombs set aside for making new beehives in case of total loss.  Then repopulate the wild hive(s) by over-breeding your crafted beehive(s).

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Java 1.15.2 + Spigot

I have a couple bee areas. One with all nests, one all hives (collectively 'homes'). There are many more homes than bees. There are plenty of homes for existing and newly bred bees. The area under and around the homes is densely populated with flowers. Campfires are protected from horizontal And vertical entry. The bees have no obvious reason to go anywhere other than from home to flowers a few blocks away and back. I have not seen a bee die or despawn. I have No berries anywhere in the area. But I do see them flying away, maybe about 50 blocks. And after doing other game activities I frequently come back to find very few left.

So far I have three theories:

1) They may be getting slowly hit and killed by torches. I use a lot of pumpkins but there torches everywhere as well for complete mob spawning coverage.

2) They may get into a loop of damage when near water, constantly dipping down/up until death. I have not seen this, just guessing.

3) They may be despawning when there is no player in range, maybe on reaching a mob cap for bee count?

My immediate plan, move all existing bees from nests to hives, build a glass wall around the whole thing, and then setup redstone for auto-harvesting.

I really like having bees flying all around. I hope that either a bug is fixed or that we get some insight into what else is required in the environment to keep them alive.

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Java 1.15.2 + Spigot

I have a couple bee areas. One with all nests, one all hives (collectively 'homes'). There are many more homes than bees. There are plenty of homes for existing and newly bred bees. The area under and around the homes is densely populated with flowers. Campfires are protected from horizontal And vertical entry. The bees have no obvious reason to go anywhere other than from home to flowers a few blocks away and back. I have not seen a bee die or despawn. I have No berries anywhere in the area. But I do see them flying away, maybe about 50 blocks. And after doing other game activities I frequently come back to find very few left.

So far I have three theories:

1) They may be getting slowly hit and killed by torches. I use a lot of pumpkins but there torches everywhere as well for complete mob spawning coverage.

2) They may get into a loop of damage when near water, constantly dipping down/up until death. I have not seen this, just guessing.

3) They may be despawning when there is no player in range, maybe on reaching a mob cap for bee count?

My immediate plan, move all existing bees from nests to hives, build a glass wall around the whole thing, and then setup redstone for auto-harvesting.

I really like having bees flying all around. I hope that either a bug is fixed or that we get some insight into what else is required in the environment to keep them alive.

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Java Vanilla 1.15.2

I keep loosing bees. I breed them, have more than enough hives and have lowered fires, removed water etc. It seems like my loss is entirely due to random movement. This is frustrating, vastly reduces the fun of bees and instead makes it a constant battle to re-breed them every few MC weeks. It's also not even remotely bee-like as one of their defining characteristics in the real world is their navigational abilities. I could build enclosures, and that's fine for mid and end-game, but early on it's just a constant struggle you don't need to be dealing with that's not at all realistic. I don't mind non-realistic behavior if that adds to or improves gameplay, but that's not the case in this instance.

Bees should have two AI modes:

1) Have a "home" hive/nest set - in this way they would navigate like Sea Turtles, always able to find their home hive or nest while the player is in range. In this mode Bees would work as they do currently while looking for flowers, but when weather, pollen or ToD force them to head home they should be much more able to find their way home (NBT tags with the XYZ coords of the "home" nest/hive would be used to make pathfinding more accurate, just like for the sea turtles). If a Bee arrives at their "home" nest and find it already fully occupied or missing it would immediately change to mode 2

2) No "home" set -  in this mode the Bee begins a random wander to find a new home, and nothing can interrupt this search other than taking damage from a player or mob (resulting in combat behavior) or if a player has a flower (to allow homeless Bees to be led to a new home).

Bees are really close to being an excellent addition to MC, but currently they are totally useless long term without an enclosure, and that's neither realistic or fun.

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Java Vanilla 1.15.2

I keep loosing bees. I breed them, have more than enough hives and have lowered fires, removed water etc. It seems like my loss is entirely due to random movement. This is frustrating, vastly reduces the fun of bees and instead makes it a constant battle to re-breed them every few MC weeks. It's also not even remotely bee-like as one of their defining characteristics in the real world is their navigational abilities. I could build enclosures, and that's fine for mid and end-game, but early on it's just a constant struggle you don't need to be dealing with that's not at all realistic. I don't mind non-realistic behavior if that adds to or improves gameplay, but that's not the case in this instance.

Bees should have two AI modes:

1) Have a "home" hive/nest set - in this way they would navigate like Sea Turtles, always able to find their home hive or nest while the player is in range. In this mode Bees would work as they do currently while looking for flowers, but when weather, pollen or ToD force them to head home they should be much more able to find their way home (NBT tags with the XYZ coords of the "home" nest/hive would be used to make pathfinding more accurate, just like for the sea turtles). If a Bee arrives at their "home" nest and find it already fully occupied or missing it would immediately change to mode 2

2) No "home" set -  in this mode the Bee begins a random wander to find a new home, and nothing can interrupt this search other than taking damage from a player or mob (resulting in combat behavior) or if a player has a flower (to allow homeless Bees to be led to a new home).

Bees are really close to being an excellent addition to MC, but currently they are totally useless long term without an enclosure, and that's neither realistic or fun.

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I need to apologize. I am just now seeing that the original report here was for Bedrock but I'm running Java. So this is a confirmation that the issue was/is not Bedrock-only.

 

FWIW, I think I found my bees. The simply flew far away and I just happned to find them as I was adventuring across the ocean to the North-West of my base. Of course, how do I know those were my bees? I don't, but I found a group of them just off the ocean in a desert with no nests, so I'm making a big assumption that this group of bees without a home came from my base.

 

So my best guess on this now is that the bees are losing interest like other mobs occasionally do, and then they're flying Northwest, sort of like mobs used to do when they huddled in a corner of any enclosure.

 

HTH

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I need to apologize. I am just now seeing that the original report here was for Bedrock but I'm running Java. So this is a confirmation that the issue was/is not Bedrock-only.

 

FWIW, I think I found my bees. The simply flew far away and I just happned to find them as I was adventuring across the ocean to the North-West of my base. Of course, how do I know those were my bees? I don't, but I found a group of them just off the ocean in a desert with no nests, so I'm making a big assumption that this group of bees without a home came from my base.

 

So my best guess on this now is that the bees are losing interest like other mobs occasionally do, and then they're flying Northwest, sort of like mobs used to do when they huddled in a corner of any enclosure.

 

HTH

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TBH I am not sure if it’s still happening. I’ve become very conservative when it comes to my bees. Most I keep in a dedicated bee house where they have limited chance for wondering or exposure to hazards. I do have one hive outdoors but I keep it well away from rivers or large bodies of water and I’ve filled in the small ponds and water logged tophalf-planks for any sources watering my crops. I’ve removed any berry bushes that are not in their own room. There still appears to be bees in the area though I have no idea about their population size-I’ve also been working on remote projects so seldom have my home chunks loaded for any period of time. It’s hard to count them since I am unable to tell how many are in the hive.

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TBH I am not sure if it’s still happening. I’ve become very conservative when it comes to my bees. Most I keep in a dedicated bee house where they have limited chance for wondering or exposure to hazards. I do have one hive outdoors but I keep it well away from rivers or large bodies of water and I’ve filled in the small ponds and water logged tophalf-planks for any sources watering my crops. I’ve removed any berry bushes that are not in their own room. There still appears to be bees in the area though I have no idea about their population size-I’ve also been working on remote projects so seldom have my home chunks loaded for any period of time. It’s hard to count them since I am unable to tell how many are in the hive.

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I think it is possible that this is a duplicate of MCPE-21416

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I think it is possible that this is a duplicate of MCPE-21416

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Hey Ronald, tip. Plant birch saplings surrounded by flowers/tall flowers, keep harvesting the trees and replanting the saplings and eventually bee hives will naturally spawn on the the trees.

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Hey Ronald, tip. Plant birch saplings surrounded by flowers/tall flowers, keep harvesting the trees and replanting the saplings and eventually bee hives will naturally spawn on the the trees.

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I just returned to Minecraft after a two month hiatus with another game.  I have a completely enclosed facility with flowers and three beehives.  The roof and walls are glass block completely boxed.  There is no way the bees can escape.  When I last played all three hives were full.  I just played for the first time in that two months tonight.  I was curious about why my bees seemed surprisingly inactive.  The reason was that two of my hives were empty and the third only had two bees in it.  I did load minecraft and let it update several weeks ago but did not play it at that time.   

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I just returned to Minecraft after a two month hiatus with another game.  I have a completely enclosed facility with flowers and three beehives.  The roof and walls are glass block completely boxed.  There is no way the bees can escape.  When I last played all three hives were full.  I just played for the first time in that two months tonight.  I was curious about why my bees seemed surprisingly inactive.  The reason was that two of my hives were empty and the third only had two bees in it.  I did load minecraft and let it update several weeks ago but did not play it at that time.   

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It is still a problem and i would like to know why. ive recreated me bee farm 4 times now

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It is still a problem and i would like to know why. ive recreated me bee farm 4 times now

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