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Ancient Debris and Netherite Block can be moved with a piston

Piston can't even move Obsidians, How they can be?

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This is almost definitely WAI. If it's not, I wish it was because it's incredibly useful.

Pistons can't move brewing stands
So this is WAI

@unknown What logic is that? Brewing stands are TEs. And if you're the RedCMD that I know, you know that as well.

I think it was a joke

Oh god please keep this

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My opinion is, Pistons cannot move Obsidians, since which're very hard (tough). The truth is, however, either of Ancient Debris & Netherite Block is harder than Obsidian. So I don't think Pistons can move em is suitable.

I'm inclined to think that this is WaI, and it's imo also really useful, but it's of course up to Mojang to decide Block of Netherite's and Ancient Debris' Lore and everything around it.

But let's break it down real quick, just in case Mojang needs any arguments, and also to try to convince @unknown of their usefulness to keep them movable; this means though that I'll also have to use arguments I personally do not support, but, for the sake of a clearer picture, it's usually a good idea to try to see things from different view points, but I don't claim my following arguments can paint a full picture, as I'm also biased regarding this.

Potentially, the reason why some people may think those two blocks should be immovable by pistons, is due to Ancient Debris and Netherite Block having the same high Blast Resistance as Obsidian does, and having to be mined with a(n at least) diamond pickaxe as well, and having the same hardness and thus breaking time.

@unknown In Minecraft, at the very least Netherite Block has the very same hardness as Obsidian (Ancient Debris probably as well, I haven't tested yet), however, as already stated, Ancient Debris as well as Netherite Block got the same Blast Resistance like Obsidian, they are not superior to Obsidian in those regards.

IRL, Obsidian is actually very brittle and not so "tough", not so hard, it's only about a 5 out of 10 on the Mohs' scale of hardness (Diamond got a 10, Quartz a 7), but Minecraft doesn't always follow real life, of course, and Obsidian got its special MC history/reasons, regarding its specs.

For the sake of argumenting, there hypothetically could be a compromise:
One of them being able to be moved be pistons, the other one not.

The argument of some players could be: Ancient Debris should remain movable, to enable Nether quarries, and Netherite Block would not be movable, so we would have a better-looking block than Obsidian to use for some Redstone contraptions.

Of course one could also use the same argument for a decent-looking high blast-resistant block to make it movable, e.g. off the top of my hat I could think of flying "tanks" of sorts, blast-resistant doors, "self-buillding" houses etc.

Personally, I don't feel like looks should play a major role in this decision at all, as the technical aspect/usefulness should overweigh, and, thus, both those blocks would be imo better to remain movable by pistons, and thus, this bugpost would be WaI.

@Meri Diana
Have U tested that both Ancient Debris & Netherite Block can B broken by Wither? I remember that Obsidians can B broken by Wither.

@unknown Yes, both Ancient Debris and Netherite Block can be broken by the Wither as well.

This is a feature and not a bug

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