Vine blocks will prevent both 2x2 spruce, and 2x2 jungle saplings from generating at all. This is not the case for the 1x1 variants, which are able to grow properly.
Steps to Reproduce:
Replicate this setup:
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(The vines need to be above the north-west sapling)
Place spruce, or jungle saplings on top of the grass
Bone meal the saplings
Observed & Expected Behavior:
❌ The sapling will not grow, no matter how much bone meal is used.
✔ The sapling would grow, as vine blocks are included in the "replaceable_by_trees" block tag.
Screenshots/Videos:
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Notes:
The noteable gameplay affect from this issue, is that growing jungle trees inside a jungle is very difficult, if not impossible. Due to the high volume of vines, the player will be unable to grow 2x2 trees unlike expected.
Linked issues
is duplicated by 4
relates to 3
MC-8187
Two-by-two arrangements of jungle or spruce saplings cannot grow when there are adjacent blocks located north or west of the sapling formation
Reopened
MC-228758
Most saplings cannot grow if there is a block diagonally above it
Open
MC-266936
Snow layers prevent saplings from growing into trees
Open
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Comments 15
Can confirm in 20w46a. I gave the saplings a large amount of bone meal and they didn't grow at all. It normally takes an average of 3 bone meal to grow a tree, so this is definitely an issue.
Relates to MC-112975.
Can confirm in 1.17.1. Might be related to MC-228758, but it only affects 2x2 trees.
Relates to MC-193318
I'd like to ask ownership of this issue again, as i don't think it was fair to suddenly take it from me without even asking. The only reason i didn't keep mantaining this issue is that i have a life outside MC, and no dev seemed to care about or even notice this, but i think randomly coming and saying "i'm the captain now" was pretty rude.
[Mod] Jingy
Interesting. I hadn’t noticed this but I did notice that no singular jungle sapling ever grew with vines or cocoa beans. The larger ones seem to grow with vines.