[MCPE-53933] Minecon 2016 capes not showing in the capes section

The cape skin packs were supposed to allow you to equip the capes included to your skin, that is not the case for the minecon 2016 skinpack for some reason.

(This effects all platforms)

MCPE-54234 is NOT a duplicate, but a seperate issue. Please unresolve it.

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is duplicated by 24

MCPE-54180 The Minecon 2016 Skins Bundle Capes are not in the Character Creator Resolved

MCPE-57640 MINECON 2016 Skin Pack Capes Resolved

MCPE-63365 Minecon 2016 Skin Pack Capes don't show up in the Character Creator Cape Menu. Resolved

MCPE-71943 2016 minecon capes are not in the cape section Resolved

MCPE-75254 Capes don't show up in the new "capes" menu. Resolved

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KCodeYT 2019-10-24T15:33:25Z

In 1.14.0.3 this bug is even worse because the capes are simply overwritten with the "Founder-Edition"-Cape, so you don't have these capes anymore.

TheStjepanKiller 2019-10-25T16:44:35Z

No they didnt , nobody said that , u wont be able to put minecon capes on your own skins , unless u get a code if you were on minecon

HungryBoy02 2019-10-25T16:50:20Z

@Stjepan that is for java edition, not bedrock. 🤦‍♀️

There are no minecon codes for bedrock, except for the 2016 capes pack.

Vsky 2019-10-25T16:51:31Z

@Stjepan What are you talking about? This cloak, which is available now, did not oblige to attend in person. So in 2016 they were given out without a personal presence. And if you follow the logic, then they must be provided to those who activated in 2016.

I apologize in advance, because I use a translator.

TheStjepanKiller 2019-10-25T19:08:59Z

@HungryBoy02 yea but im talking that maybe in future all people who been on minecon 2011-2016 will maybe get code to activate cape on mc bedrock

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TheStjepanKiller 2019-10-25T19:11:46Z

@Nikita Vasilkovsky im dumb so now im confused , and can you use word cape not cloak.

And are you a dev or moderator on Jira or minecraft

Vsky 2019-10-26T05:17:59Z

@Stjepan No, I'm just a player.)

Auldrick 2019-10-31T19:06:26Z

Thank you for your report!
However, this report is Invalid.

To have combinable components in the Character Creator required a new technology for defining them. The Minecon 2016 skin pack was created long before that technology was invented, so the capes in that pack aren't compatible with Character Creator capes, and there was never any intention to redesign them as components.

I'm sure they could be recreated for the Character Creator, but since it was never in the plan this is a new feature request, not a bug. You might want to request this on the Feedback site.

Vsky 2019-10-31T19:45:03Z

@unknown

You're not right. Both skin packs have similar features. And they have similar "bugs" with the mapping problem. Even the creator's cape was not immediately displayed in the raincoats menu. This means that this function was introduced for him recently. Which will not be difficult to do for 2016. We are “players” not to blame for the fact that the creators did not foresee this in the future.

Vsky 2019-10-31T19:50:56Z

@unknown

https://feedback.minecraft.com/ such a site does not even exist. Maybe you mean .net?

Auldrick 2019-11-01T01:53:02Z

I did indeed mean .NET and I have corrected the link above.

When I initially read what you said—that "the cape skin packs were supposed to allow you to equip the capes included to your skin"—I was surprised, because I knew that was true for the Founder's Cape Skin Pack but hadn't heard anything about them doing it for the Minecon or any other pack. So I asked the developers if it were intended, and their answer was that no, they had not planned to do that for anything but the Founder's Cape. That's why I closed this report.

I think you have a misunderstanding about what's going on here. The Founder's Cape shown on the Capes tab is a Character Creator component. You appear to believe that this component was included in and extracted from the skin pack, and that therefore it should be easy to extract the capes from the similar Minecon 2016 skin pack. This is incorrect. Character Creator components are entirely separate files with information that isn't available in a skin image or pack. They're created independently and made available through the Marketplace.

What happened is that sometime during 1.13's development, the game got new logic to check whether you own the Founder's Cape Skin Pack. If so, it tried to download the Founder's Cape component from the Marketplace and unlock it. That way, the developers could take their time getting capes working, and once it was ready they could upload the Founder's Cape component to the Marketplace and everybody who had the skin pack would automatically get it.

The real purpose of the Founder's Cape Skin Pack was to trigger this download when it was available. Its description on the Marketplace makes this clear. It reads: "Secure your Character Creator Founder's Cape early by downloading this skin pack. By downloading you will automatically receive your cape when it launches later this fall." (The Founder's Cape Skin Pack is the only skin pack worded this way.) Mojang also included a couple of caped skins in the pack to get people hyped about the introduction of capes, but the skins didn't really have anything to do with the CC component. They were there to give people a motive for downloading the free skin pack and enabling the trigger.

Mojang either didn't consider or decided against creating components for the Minecon 2016 capes, so there's nothing to unlock for them. Obviously, they can create components for them, but that would be a new feature, and that's why I suggested requesting it on the Feedback site.

Vsky 2019-11-01T08:00:16Z

@unknown Thanks so much for a more detailed explanation!

BUT! Most recently added cape Creator during Minecon. After that, a few more builds came out without the CAPE tab in the character creators. After this tab appeared there added the Creator of cape. And, here's the main coincidence: at this point, the skin pack from cape Creator ceases to appear on Alex/Steve skins as well as the Minecon 2016 skin pack. (You can check for yourself. It is now.) It turns out that the system defines them as capes and removes their display.

Vsky 2019-11-01T08:11:17Z

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Auldrick 2019-11-01T08:25:39Z

Thank you for including those images. I was writing a reply to you when you uploaded them, and I was very very confused, partly because of our language difference but mostly because you and I were seeing different things.

You see, on my computer those two skin packs do show the capes. I'm currently on the 1.13.0 release version, so Mojang must have done something in 1.14 that broke the capes. That's a new bug, not related to what you were originally reporting. A quick search found that this new bug has already been reported, see MCPE-54181.

Vsky 2019-11-01T08:31:14Z

So all the same, the system understands that in the 2016 package there are the same capes? Once she removes their display as in the "Founders cape".

Sorry for the translator. I translate several times from my own language to yours, and then again to my own, in order to verify the correctness of thought. It can be seen that it still does not work perfectly.

Auldrick 2019-11-01T08:52:21Z

I'm not quite sure what you mean in the first paragraph. The capes are still in the Minecraft 2016 Skin Pack, something is just causing them not to be rendered in the current Beta release. The fact that it's affecting both kinds of capes (old ones built into the skin and new ones created from the component) probably indicates that the bug is late in the processing, where the composed skin gets translated into data for the renderer. It might indicate that they're trying to turn the Minecon capes into Capes section components after all, despite what I was told. (I can't promise you that, though.)

Don't worry about your translation, it's really not bad. Like I said, the problem was mostly because I wasn't seeing the same thing, so I thought I was misunderstanding you. The only other problem was "cape Creator". The word order is reversed from English, and you used the synonym Creator instead of the English word Founder. That made me think you were talking about the Character Creator. Once I thought about how many languages use the opposite word order, it all fell into place and I understood you.

Vsky 2019-11-01T08:59:15Z

Yes, I used the wrong word. Sorry.(
I am very glad that we understood each other.
Thank you again for explaining everything to us!