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MCPE-66818

Mobs disappearing once put through nether portal

Note from [~GoldenHelmet]

The cause of this issue for non-persistent mobs on simulation distance 6+ is detailed in this comment.
The cause of this issue for pets is detailed in this comment.

If you are experiencing this issue in other circumstances, such as with villagers or tamed horses, please try to provide information like the following:

  • Does the problem occur in a singleplayer, multiplayer, or both?

  • Do lost mobs reappear if you use the portal several times?

  • Does the problem still occur, or do lost mobs reappear, if you relog before going through the portal?

  • What are the portal coordinates?

  • If the problem occurs regularly, could you provide a copy of you world save?

Summary:
When more than 1 but less than 15 mobs are sent through a nether portal, all of them except for 1 despawn.

Steps to Reproduce:

  1. Create a nether portal.

  2. Spawn a couple of mobs.

  3. Send the mobs through the nether portal.

  4. Enter the nether portal.

Observed Results:
All of the mobs except for 1 have despawned.

Expected Results:
No mobs should despawn when sent through the nether portal.


Original Description:
So I have A survival world that I just built a really awsome villager breeder. It works perfectly fine until the baby villagers are born and are taken to the nether portal. Almost everytime a villager goes through it disappears and I can’t get them back. Only 10 out of 20 babies have made it.😞

Related issues

MCPE-67329 Villagers not loading into overworld when coming out of nether MCPE-67431 Villager Disapearing in Nether Portal MCPE-67771 Villagers disappear when going through nether portal MCPE-68395 My Cats disappear MCPE-68419 mobs disappear when they go through the nether portal MCPE-68588 Villagers sent thru a nether portal takes damage and doesn't appear in the nether MCPE-70349 Villagers Despawning when entering Nether Portals MCPE-72245 Disappearing Mine carts (Nether portals) MCPE-72731 villagers are constantly disappearing, especially small children .... When they pass through a nether portal, they don't go to the nether, they just disappear MCPE-73071 Villagers can't are deleted when moved into nether portals MCPE-74305 Deleting items when thrown in nether portal MCPE-74480 Portal' bug. MCPE-75320 villagers dissapearing in portals MCPE-75540 Bug portals, mobs and villagers MCPE-75940 villagers still keep disappearing when crossing a portal MCPE-75997 Animals disappear when entering the Nether MCPE-76210 The Villager disappears after going through the Nether portal MCPE-76647 Villagers - sending from Nether = GONE!! MCPE-76814 Hoglin does not cross portal properly MCPE-76817 Multiple Mobs or entities disappear after entering a portal MCPE-76880 Villagers Disappearing through Nether Portal MCPE-77226 BUG nether portal MCPE-78017 Entities disappear in nether portal. MCPE-78639 Villiagers dissapear when going through nether portals. MCPE-79622 witches vanish when sent through a portal. MCPE-82145 Mobs despawning when entering nether portal. MCPE-84568 Losing tamed unnamed dog. MCPE-85025 Mobs that go trough portals dont appears on the other side MCPE-86831 Villagers disappear when going through nether portal MCPE-90330 Villages are not appearing on the other side of my nether portal MCPE-91366 Mobs disappear in the Nether Portal. MCPE-92867 Horse sometimes disappears after going through a nether portal. MCPE-92910 error entering and exiting mobs from the underworld portal MCPE-93503 Entities disappear when travelling through some (not all) nether portals from the nether to the overworld. MCPE-94801 Disappearing parrots MCPE-94886 Mobs despawn when sent to the nether MCPE-101972 Mobs going through nether portals on simulation distance 6 and up disappear. MCPE-109344 Disappearing/teleporting pets, villagers, and a lot of dyed sheep. MCPE-113518 Tameble Mob vanishes after exiting Nether MCPE-116572 Mobs disappear when going through nether portals

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Do you Guys know when Bugs like these get fixed? right now i am taking a break from Minecraft till this is patched because I dont want to risk losing more villagers/mobs

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Is there a workaround for this bug, maybe only transporting the next mob, after having moved away the first mob from the vicinity of the portal, does this work ? I am asking this, because one of my villagers had accidentally passed through a Nether portal. I found it there and trapped it in a boat near the portal, and thought, oh nice, just transporting one more villlager through the portal, and I can found a villlage in the Nether. But none of the villagers I tried to transport to the Nether by smashing boats arrived there, they simply disappeared.

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I know the duplicates show platforms than XBox One so It clearly affects more than that, but I will just be explicit anyway. This also affects Windows 10. In my case I am trying to use a villager breeder in the nether and trasport the babies to the overworld. The breeder works wonders, but going through the portal makes the babies and cats disappear. Some people mention they get one to go through, or half to go through, etc...

 

I get none to go through successfully. Though i am building the breeder in a spot where babies will arrive in the overworld inside an existing game generated village. So it appears if any entity is around the portal, whether they were game generated, spawned in by breeding or have recently travelled through the portal or not makes no difference. If something is on the other side, the entity doesnt make it through.

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This bug has not only influenced the nether portal,but also the ender portal.It costs my 100 villagers;(

Hope can be fixed as soon as possible.

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plz fix it TAT we dont want to lose more mob farms or sands orz

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This will make the game lose a lot of ways to play.

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 it may make a part of players lose their ways of games*😞*

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I mean this is...this bug will actually ruin all the hard works we’ve done as BE players on the development of mob tower😞. No doubt that all BE players are hoping Mojang would actually pay attention to this bug and fix it soon.

这个bug将绝对会毁掉BE玩家一切对刷怪塔的研究成果。毋庸置疑,所有的BE玩家都在迫切地等待Mojang这个bug的修复,并希望Mojang能够重视。

[Mojang] Mega_Spud (Jay)

Does this happen to mobs that have their persistence set? (tempted, name-tagged, tamed, bred, etc)

[Mod] OcelotOnesie

It does.

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Affects Win 10 too (persistence). Also is random which makes it hard to track. You can send two villagers through ok, but send another set later and one or more will despawn/vanish randomly. Have also had existing name-tagged villagers despawn in base after returning from Nether, but again this is random. A temporary fix is that I always save game before sending through mobs/going exploring new Nether biomes - and reload if I lose any. Not perfect but ok as we are in Beta...

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I have the experience of the mobs being in limbo. Adding a 4th mob into portal respawned the mobs and dropped the boats I used. This was after saving and assuming they were lost. Apparently they are stuck in between the 2 portals and have not actually despawned.

TheRoyalBlock

This seems like a cause for a potential memory leak if what Kris Beauchamp said is the case.

Vincent294

I am on Bedrock Dedicated Server Linux 1.16 with the same issue. It doesn't always happen, but it often does.

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I see there are numerous reports of this across the 1.16 betas that are marked as duplicate and linked to this case.

I have just experienced this for the 3rd time in 2 days with mine arts and villagers when trying to bring them back to my overworked tradehall.

1.16 XB1X with latest dedicated server software

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Thiss happening to my drowned farm. They go through the portals and disappear. The tutorial said it was about 500 drowneds an hour 

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I'm having the same problem in my drowned farm, but only when it runs on simulation distance 10. When I reduce the simulation distance to 4, nothing despawns!

GoldenHelmet

This appears to be the same issue that was reported in MCPE-22340. That ticket was closed in a bulk resolve due to not being updated.

GoldenHelmet

New duplicate report MCPE-101972 corroborates Peter Schinko's statment above that this only occurs on simulation distance 6 and higher, and does not occur on simulation distance 4. I wonder if it might be related to how the game determines a "simulation edge" chunk, i.e. perhaps it treats the chunk where the exit portal is located as a simulation edge on its first tick b/c the chunks around have not loaded yet, and then it applies simulation edge despawning rules to everything that comes out of the portal?

Update: I am 99% sure that this is indeed what is happening. The attached test world,

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can be used to demonstrate this. (It contains the beginnings of a drowned farm I was designing and has 332 mobs in limbo.)

Steps to reproduce

  1. Load the test world. It is on sim6.

  2. Go through the portal. There will be no mobs in the nether.

  3. Re-import a clean copy of the test world.

  4. Change the world to sim4.

  5. Load the world.

  6. Go through the portal. There will be hundreds of drowned in the nether.

  7. Re-import a clean copy of the test world again. Leave it on sim6.

  8. Use the spawn egg to spawn a drowned.

  9. Go through the portal. There will be one drowned--the one that has persistence b/c it was spawned with a spawn egg.

Expected results

Each time you load the world and go through the portal, there will be hundreds of drowned.

Actual results

On sim6 and above, only mobs with persistence load when travelling through the portal, and the rest despawn.

Note

Unfortunately, this can't explain the original report that villagers were disappearing when sent going through a portal, and it wouldn't explain reports of tamed animals and name-tagged mobs never coming out of a portal either. If anyone can reproduce those scenarios, it would be great to get a test world that we can examine.

GoldenHelmet

(UPDATE: This repro is also tracked separately at MCPE-88322.)

I have reproduced this issue for pets using the following steps. It requires two players. (Possibly a ticking area could work instead of a second player.)

  1. Create a nether portal in the overworld at 800 Y 800.

  2. Have a second player travel through the portal and keep the nether-side portal within their simulation distance. It should be near 100 Y 100

  3. Spawn and tame a parrot, dog, or cat in the overworld.

  4. Make sure the pet is not sitting.

  5. Push the pet into the portal.

  6. Have the second player travel to 800 Y 800 in the nether and observe as first player moves around.

Expected results

The second player sees the pet come out of the portal in the nether. The pet stands still because it's owner is not present.

Actual results

The pet is sent its owner's overworld coordinates in the nether. So if the owner is at Overworld 808 70 808, the pet is sent to 808 70 808 in the nether. When the the second player observes there, they see the pet in the nether track the coordinates of its owner in the overworld (if it has not been killed by being sent to a dangerous place). The result may be easiest to see if you use parrots in a flat world and reverse the dimensions, but it works in either direction with all pets.

Notes

The following scenarios seem to work correctly:

  • If a second player is not present to keep the other-side portal loaded, the pet will appear in the portal with the owner when the owner comes through.

  • If the pet is sat down before being pushed through the portal, it will appear in the portal in the other dimension when pushed through.

  • If the pet is standing up but not pushed through the portal, it will come through the portal with the owner.

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I tested my drowned farm in Simulation distance of 6 and they didn't despawn when i went to to kill chamber in the beta 1.16.220.52.

GoldenHelmet

Based on the reported (and confirmed by GinePik above) fix for the nether portal despawn issue in the 1.16.220.52, we will resolve this report as "fixed" when that fix makes it to a release version.

The issue with pets being sent to the wrong coordinates when another player is in the other dimension will continue to be tracked at MCPE-88322.

silentwisperer

This is still happening occasionally in the 1.16.230.50 beta. Tested by sending naturally spawned mobs thru a portal to the nether on sim 6.

GoldenHelmet

@silentsisperer: could you provide more precise steps to reproduce?

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I don't think it's the same problem. I have found mobs (most of the time in my experience) reappear from portals used by the player and otherwise disappear. See MCPE-116572 which differs in a few details from present issue.

GoldenHelmet

Niels Peter Rasmussen: (replying here rather than MCPE-116572 b/c that was resolved as a duplicate)
I tested what I think you mean, and found that non-persistent mobs do not necessarily despawn if you go through a different portal. They despawn if you go through a portal that puts you far enough from the portal where the mobs come out that they are in instant despawn chunks or beyond the instant despawn radius on sim4. Also, if you come out of a portal more than 32 blocks from where the mobs come out then they will be subject to the random despawn timer. Those outcomes are just due to the despawn mechanics working as intended.

kimowin

Possibly affects 1.18.2. Tested on sim 4 singleplayer by sending naturally spawned mobs and other entities through a portal. When the player goes to the nether, all the naturally spawned mobs are gone but other entities such as items and spawn egg mobs are there. The portal is already within sim distance when the player enters the nether, and the coordinates of the portals are correct. The naturally spawned mobs can occasionally load properly, but I haven’t found a cause for it.

Edit: the y coordinates of the nether side portal were about 50 higher than the overworld side, after lowering it to the same y level the naturally spawn mobs did load correctly. 

GoldenHelmet

Kimowin: please create a new report for the specific case you can reproduce.

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I can replicate this as well. Sim 4 and above giving this issue in 1.18.1 on multiplayer - blaze farm blazes lost once they get pushed through portal.

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@golden@unknown When you create a new ticket for this bug, as I created for Java edition 1.18.1, the automod resolves it as duplicate.

GoldenHelmet

Jakk Maydan: This is a Bedrock Edition report. If you're having an issue in Java Edition then this report is irrelevant to your issue and your issue is irrelevant to this report.

The report you created in the Java project was resolved by a human moderator asking for more information.

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I’m experiencing this issue on 1.19.0 for Xbox One. Villagers are disappearing when going from the nether into the overworld, whether being released from a vehicle like a minecart or a boat or being pushed through manually. The problem occurs whether on single player or in a Realm. The mobs do not reappear after using the portal several times. The problem still occurs if I reply before going through the portal. The problem occurs in many different places that I’ve tested around a copy of my world in creative mode, but the area where the issue was discovered is around the 32, 180, 180 area. I’ll try to get a world download into the thread asap.

GoldenHelmet

We do not reopen reports for issues that were confirmed to be fixed in a release version. Please search for an open report that is more specific to your case, or create a new one.

snakedad daggerbyte: please see if MCPE-154926 and MCPE-39609 together explain the issues you are having.

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Confirmed

Multiple

Xbox one S

1.16.100.58 Beta, 1.16.0.66 Beta, 1.16.0.63 Beta, 1.16.0.61 Beta, 1.16.0.60 Beta, ..., 1.16.40 Hotfix, 1.16.100, 1.16.200, 1.16.201 Hotfix, 1.16.210

1.16.220, 1.16.220.52 Beta

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