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MC-997

Clouds are transparent when you are above/in them but not when you're underneath them.

The bug

When you are in or above a cloud, you can see through it, but when you are underneath it, you can't. When moving up and down around the cloud level, you can see the blocks behind the clouds appearing and disappearing.

Related issues

MC-1715 Cloud's and Block's MC-1970 Beacons don't render through the bottom of clouds MC-11180 Blocks not showing through clouds is back! MC-46056 Clouds render the rest of the sky through blocks MC-50131 Clouds Semi Transparent Unless Bottom is 1 block Above Feet MC-50505 clouds make vision 0 at y=127 MC-54946 Blocks above clouds don't render when viewed through the cloud from beneath! MC-54952 Clouds appear opaque MC-58121 Clouds and displaying MC-58571 Cloud transparency MC-58731 [RESOLVED] Everything turns invisible through clouds MC-63286 clouds aren't transparent MC-68923 Clouds transparency only shows sky (and stars) above them, and not blocks (like mountains) MC-69120 Clouds showing sky instead of roof MC-74477 Cloud bug MC-112654 Able To see sky through clouds even if blocks are above it MC-133300 Cant see blocks above clouds while cloud clips blocks MC-150315 Any blocks above clouds don't render MC-164315 players and clouds

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Can confirm this. Even with Grafic Settings: Fast (2D clouds) its the same.

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yay, so it's not just me ๐Ÿ˜›

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Same problem here.
Reproduced on both windows7 and on linux.
Running unmodified minecraft.jar
Both fast and fancy graphics.

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More examples

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I agree with this one, because I hate it specially I use beacon to spot my base but the beacon's light always gets cut off because of the clouds since you can't see threw the clouds when you are under it. I wish this will get fixed soon!

kumasasa

Confirmed.

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This is most noticeable with the new beacon, if the beam hits the clouds it gets visually "cut off"

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Jesper, isn't this related to MC-1398?

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@Sid Ben
Ah, yup you're right. I like my description and title more though. Besides, I was first ;p.

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Yeah, this report is more detailed

kumasasa

Still confirmed with 1.4.5

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Yep, still happening. Also weird to note that at night, if you're lined up right you can still see the moon through the clouds and through whatever blocks the clouds are obscuring.

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Duplicate of MC-386.

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That is not a duplicate, these are two different issues.

kumasasa

Reopened since another issue as MC-386

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Confirmed for 1.4.6 on Linux.

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They show the sky behind, you can see start through buildings by looking at clouds at night. 1.4.6
Especially annoying on texture packs with smooth (more transparent) clouds.

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Confirmed, still exists in Snapshot 13w04a

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Also Snapshot 13w05a and 13w05b

Jens Bergensten

The fix was to revert to how clouds were rendered before beacons. Clouds will now look funny when seen through a beacon beam, but I suppose that's a worthwhile tradeoff to fix this problem.

Jens Bergensten

Reverted this fix because of performance issues. In the future we can fix this again, but with more specific cloud options in the video settings menu.

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Did this cause the fps drops? Because I did notice fps drops but my clouds were off.

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Rather than in the future, can you do it asap? I'd rather play with low fps but transparent clouds..

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An important point. The cloud fix was blamed for the fps drop problem. The fps drop happened in week FIVE, the same week as the stair lighting change. Clouds weren't fixed until week SIX. How are they linked?

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That's not it... FPS extremely low because of light. Now I can't play with smooth lighting... It's too laggy. =(

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Confirmed for 1.5 ans 13w11a

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Confirmed in the just released pre-release for 1.5.1

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Confirmed, but only happens for me when im using a hi-res texture pack. Using 1.5.1

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I don't know why, but this doesn't happen for me. Clouds are transparent from every direction. I'm playing Minecarft 1.5.2 without any mods.

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It only works with blocks, you need to place blocks above the clouds. When you look at the blocks while there's a cloud in front of it, the blocks will disappear. The sun/stars/moon however will still be visible

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I know. I tested it with a tower and I can see it from every y level, no matter if I'm above, in or under the clouds.

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Do you use any mods?

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I have just done some testing, and it seem no matter what i do with optifine adjusting those, it always seems to do this only on my hi resolution texture pack. The only thing that i can find to change it is make the cloud hight higher.

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No it is pure vanilla... Weird.

kumasasa

Can confirm this issue with 1.5.2 and 13w18c, regardless of texture pack (default or highres).
@David Lรถffler: Please force a crash by pressing F3 + C for 10 seconds while ingame and attach the crash report here.

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Here you go: http://pastebin.com/FwvFcN48

It's weird. I really can see the top half (Edit: From the tower!) from the ground and I have no idea why. I stood right in front of it (Edit: Of the tower!), if that matters (probably not).

kumasasa

Attached crash report to ticket.

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you have to be underneath the clouds not right in front of them

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Sorry, this wasn't clear. I stood right in front of the tower on the ground. I mean the tower which I can see through the clouds regardless of my Y coordinate. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Confirmed in 13w21a

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Still an issue in the 1.6.1 pre-release. Added an image with a donkey.

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This is still an issue in the 1.6.1 release, an annoying one at that.

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From above: Fine. From within: Fine. From Below: Broken.

Confirmed for 1.6.1 on Linux

$ uname -rms
Linux 3.9.8-1-ARCH x86_64

$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_40"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.0) (ArchLinux build 7.u40_2.4.0-1-x86_64)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.0-b40, mixed mode)

$ lspci -s 1:00.0
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1)
_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w36a !

_zombiehunter

... and 13w36b / 13w37b !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w38a/b/c !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w39a/b !

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I confirm that for 13w39b (And previous), and I have license that 100% Vanilla.

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Talven81 what kind of mod are you? Why are you editing comments as you want? Could someone please stop this malicious behavior?

kumasasa

@Dirk Sohler: There was a chain of misunderstandings regarding Launcher versions, that's cleared up now. Please disregard the edits.

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Confirmed for 13w41a

_zombiehunter

Yep, after all the transparency fixes, this still happens.

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w41b !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w42a/b !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w43a !

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This seems too deliberate to be a bug. Also, Jens commented about a fix in the future. With the new way transparency rendering is handled, is it time to revisit this?

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 1.7!

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 1.7.1 !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 1.7.2 !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w47a/b/c/d/e !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w48a/b !

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 13w49a

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 1.7.3 and 1.7.4

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 14w02a/b

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 14w04a

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 14w06a/b

_zombiehunter

Confirmed for 14w07a

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Confirmed for 14w08a

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Confirmed for 1.7.5 and 14w10b

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Confirmed for 14w11b

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Confirmed for 14w17a

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Yup still present in 14w17a

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Confirmed for 14w18a

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14w19a confirmed

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Related: MC-50875

tl:dr It's now happening 1 block too high, so that if your FEET are below the clouds it's not transparent. Supposed to be if your EYES are below the clouds not your feet.

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Confirmed for 14w21b.

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Confirmed for 14w25b.

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A mod was made in 1.7.10 that does fix axactly what is bothering here, maby mojang can add it to the game itselve: http://www.planetminecraft.com/mod/better-clouds/

Bentroen

Present in 1.8-pre1 and pre2.

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This will (most likely) be fixed in 1.9:

@TheAkaiyoGaming The cloud rendering code is fricking atrocious and is #1 on my 1.9 hit-list. Until now there was not much to be done.

https://mobile.twitter.com/themogminer/status/507936462827184128

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happens in 1.8.1 (release)

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Doesn't look like anything was changed for 15w31a. (Ryan Holtz is out of the picture now, so if no work was done after that tweet then who knows if anyone will change it)

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there are still a lot of snapshots before the full 1.9 release

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Of course there are plenty to come. But the very nature of a bug like this might lend itself to be fixed in the meantime before the snapshots started. Because what has been their focus for these snapshots? Getting new 1.9 features ready to test. Not necessarily browse ancient problems. And what happens when the first snapshot is released? Gotta fix the fresh bugs caused by the new 1.9 features, so that takes time away from the older bugs like this.

wobst.michael

Still in 15w38b

wobst.michael

Still in 15w43b

wobst.michael

Still in 15w44b

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Confirmed for:

  • 15w51b

  • 15w51a

  • 15w50a

  • 15w49b

  • 15w47c

  • 15w46a

  • 15w45a

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Confirmed for 16w02a.

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Affects 16w04a.

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Affects 16w05b.

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Affects 16w06a.

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Affects 16w07a.

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Affects 16w07b.

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Affects 1.9-pre1.

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Affects 1.9-pre3.

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Affects 1.9-pre4.

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Affects 1.9. ๐Ÿ˜ž

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Confirmed for 1.9.1-pre3.

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Affects 1.9.2.

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Confirmed for 16w15b

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Confirmed for 1.9.3-pre3.

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Confirmed for 1.9.4.

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Confirmed for 16w20a.

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Confirmed for 16w21a.

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Confirmed for 16w21b.

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Confirmed for 1.10-pre1.

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Confirmed for 1.10-pre2.

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Confirmed for 1.10.

FaRo1

I'm pretty sure the bug is not that clouds are transparent from above, but not from below, but rather that clouds are transparent for everything else than the sky texture (blue at day, black and stars at night, red in between, ...). You can see sun and moon through it and there is no clear border between transparent and opaque.

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Confirmed for 1.10.1.

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Confirmed for 1.10.2.

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@@unknown: 1.10.2 is already marked as affected. In the future, please check the affected versions listed above the description before reconfirming.

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Confirmed for 16w41a

muzikbike

Affects 1.13-pre6

muzikbike

Affects 1.13-pre7

muzikbike

Affects 1.13-pre8

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Confirmed for 1.13-pre8

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violine1101

@unknown, 1.13-pre8 has already been marked as affected.

muzikbike

Affects 1.13-pre9

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Confirmed for 1.13.1.

muzikbike

Affects 19w14a

muzikbike

Affects 19w14b

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Works as intended.

violine1101

@unknown, source?

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Still present in 1.14.

Redspyro99

Still present in 19w37a.

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It's fixed in 19w38b (and I suppose 38a too)

violine1101

Confirmed to be fixed in 19w38b.

muzikbike

Are they opaque both ways or transparent both ways? I'd assume that the latter would be intended behaviour and the former a bug, and I can't currently test anything right now.

violine1101

They are now transparent from below, inside, and above.

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(Unassigned)

Confirmed

Rendering

clouds, opacity, rendering, transparency, transparent, visibility

Minecraft 1.4.2, Minecraft 1.4.5, Minecraft 1.4.6, Minecraft 1.4.7, Snapshot 13w02a, ..., Minecraft 19w13b, Minecraft 19w14a, Minecraft 19w14b, Minecraft 1.14, 19w37a

Snapshot 13w06a, 19w38b

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